From: Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Because testing milk for safety is which: waste, or fraud, or abuse?
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 18:05:03 -0600
Organization: UTB
In article <vu99nf$1m1vc$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
says...
>
> On 2025-04-22 16:39, Skeeter OG wrote:
> > In article <vu984g$1kpjj$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-04-22 16:13, Skeeter OG wrote:
> >>> In article <vu93nt$1gtg2$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> >>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-04-22 14:43, Skeeter OG wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vu920d$1f8fm$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-04-22 14:12, Skeeter OG wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vu8vhj$1ctqu$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> >>>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 13:39, Skeeter OG wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vu8s2e$196cb$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> >>>>>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ' The Food and Drug Administration is suspending a quality control
> >>>>>>>>>> program for testing of fluid milk and other dairy products due to
> >>>>>>>>>> reduced capacity in its food safety and nutrition division, according to
> >>>>>>>>>> an internal email seen by Reuters.'
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-fda-suspends-milk-quality-tests-amid-workforce-cuts-2025-04-21/?ref=upstract.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But no problem for you, MAGAts, huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 'The suspension is another disruption to the nation's food safety
> >>>>>>>>>> programs after the termination and departure of 20,000 employees of the
> >>>>>>>>>> Department of Health and Human Services, which includes the FDA, as part
> >>>>>>>>>> of President Donald Trump's effort to shrink the federal workforce.'
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No one had an issue with milk before the regulations.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 'We are living in a time when many see ?deregulation? as a goal in
> >>>>>>>> itself. Red tape is obnoxious and counterproductive, and government
> >>>>>>>> should just leave businesses alone. That goes for an expanding array of
> >>>>>>>> consumer choices. When it comes to food, for example, an odd combination
> >>>>>>>> of the crunchy left and libertarian right now bridle at laws limiting
> >>>>>>>> their right to access ?natural? commodities, like raw milk.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I only made it to the second page without gagging. There Blum explains
> >>>>>>>> how milk was often adulterated in the late 19th century. It was watered
> >>>>>>>> down, and chalk or plaster powder was mixed in to get the color right.
> >>>>>>>> To replace the layer of cream on top, pureed calf brains could be used.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...In the case of milk, formaldehyde was a favored option. Commercial
> >>>>>>>> products such as ?Preservaline? hit the market for precisely this
> >>>>>>>> purpose. Added to fresh milk, it could prevent curdling for days, the
> >>>>>>>> same way it could preserve dead bodies. Sadly, it didn?t have quite the
> >>>>>>>> positive effect on the living children who consumed it. Clusters of
> >>>>>>>> child deaths in various cities in the late 1890s turned public attention
> >>>>>>>> to what was being put into milk. Blum suggests dozens of children died,
> >>>>>>>> particularly those in orphanages and hospitals, which bought the
> >>>>>>>> cheapest supplies.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For milk, a solution existed: pasteurization. It was already mandatory
> >>>>>>>> in some countries, but U.S. producers resisted on the grounds of cost
> >>>>>>>> and hassle. No, it would not allow old milk to stay shelf stable for
> >>>>>>>> weeks without refrigeration (something some of the dairy firms were
> >>>>>>>> obviously seeking when they used formaldehyde). But it would save
> >>>>>>>> consumers from the risks of salmonella, listeria, campylobacter (then
> >>>>>>>> known as ?infant cholera?)?not to mention formaldehyde itself.'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Did I make you grep all that? The fact is there are to
> >>>>>>> many regulations. Do you really think with our technology
> >>>>>>> that they wont keep making good milk? Moron.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "grep" it? No.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Look it up in order to show you how stupid you are? Sure!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you really think that companies can be trusted to act in the best
> >>>>>> interest of safety when they can make more money by doing otherwise?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They still have to have a product people will buy.
> >>>>
> >>>> And that was true before safety regulations...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...but they clearly adulterated products then.
> >>>
> >>> It's a new age. Relax.
> >>
> >> What makes you think that people and greed are any different?
> >
> > I never said anything about that.
>
> But it's what we need regulations to protect us FROM, doofus.
>
> It isn't TECHNOLOGY that keeps us safe.
>
> It is companies being required to make safe products...
>
> ...by regulation.
True but there to many driving the prices up.