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From: Creon <creon@creon.earth>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Because testing milk for safety is which: waste, or fraud, or
Date: 23 Apr 2025 00:09:05 GMT

On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:45:51 -0700, Alan wrote:

> On 2025-04-22 16:39, Skeeter OG wrote:
>> In article <vu984g$1kpjj$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>
>>> On 2025-04-22 16:13, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>> In article <vu93nt$1gtg2$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-04-22 14:43, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>>>> In article <vu920d$1f8fm$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 14:12, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <vu8vhj$1ctqu$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 13:39, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vu8s2e$196cb$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ' The Food and Drug Administration is suspending a quality
>>>>>>>>>>> control program for testing of fluid milk and other dairy
>>>>>>>>>>> products due to reduced capacity in its food safety and
>>>>>>>>>>> nutrition division, according to an internal email seen by
>>>>>>>>>>> Reuters.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/
us-fda-suspends-milk-quality-tests-amid-workforce-cuts-2025-04-21/?
ref=upstract.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But no problem for you, MAGAts, huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'The suspension is another disruption to the nation's food
>>>>>>>>>>> safety programs after the termination and departure of 20,000
>>>>>>>>>>> employees of the Department of Health and Human Services,
>>>>>>>>>>> which includes the FDA, as part of President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>> effort to shrink the federal workforce.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one had an issue with milk before the regulations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'We are living in a time when many see ?deregulation? as a goal
>>>>>>>>> in itself. Red tape is obnoxious and counterproductive, and
>>>>>>>>> government should just leave businesses alone. That goes for an
>>>>>>>>> expanding array of consumer choices. When it comes to food, for
>>>>>>>>> example, an odd combination of the crunchy left and libertarian
>>>>>>>>> right now bridle at laws limiting their right to access
>>>>>>>>> ?natural? commodities, like raw milk.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I only made it to the second page without gagging. There Blum
>>>>>>>>> explains how milk was often adulterated in the late 19th
>>>>>>>>> century. It was watered down, and chalk or plaster powder was
>>>>>>>>> mixed in to get the color right. To replace the layer of cream
>>>>>>>>> on top, pureed calf brains could be used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...In the case of milk, formaldehyde was a favored option.
>>>>>>>>> Commercial products such as ?Preservaline? hit the market for
>>>>>>>>> precisely this purpose. Added to fresh milk, it could prevent
>>>>>>>>> curdling for days, the same way it could preserve dead bodies.
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, it didn?t have quite the positive effect on the living
>>>>>>>>> children who consumed it. Clusters of child deaths in various
>>>>>>>>> cities in the late 1890s turned public attention to what was
>>>>>>>>> being put into milk. Blum suggests dozens of children died,
>>>>>>>>> particularly those in orphanages and hospitals, which bought the
>>>>>>>>> cheapest supplies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For milk, a solution existed: pasteurization. It was already
>>>>>>>>> mandatory in some countries, but U.S. producers resisted on the
>>>>>>>>> grounds of cost and hassle. No, it would not allow old milk to
>>>>>>>>> stay shelf stable for weeks without refrigeration (something
>>>>>>>>> some of the dairy firms were obviously seeking when they used
>>>>>>>>> formaldehyde). But it would save consumers from the risks of
>>>>>>>>> salmonella, listeria, campylobacter (then known as ?infant
>>>>>>>>> cholera?)?not to mention formaldehyde itself.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did I make you grep all that? The fact is there are to many
>>>>>>>> regulations. Do you really think with our technology that they
>>>>>>>> wont keep making good milk? Moron.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "grep" it? No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look it up in order to show you how stupid you are? Sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you really think that companies can be trusted to act in the
>>>>>>> best interest of safety when they can make more money by doing
>>>>>>> otherwise?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They still have to have a product people will buy.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that was true before safety regulations...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but they clearly adulterated products then.
>>>>
>>>> It's a new age. Relax.
>>>
>>> What makes you think that people and greed are any different?
>> 
>> I never said anything about that.
> 
> But it's what we need regulations to protect us FROM, doofus.
> 
> It isn't TECHNOLOGY that keeps us safe.
> 
> It is companies being required to make safe products...
> 
> ...by regulation.

You wouldn't have a pro football game without referees.

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