From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: Election Machine Claims
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 05:50:46 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 15:40:55 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:23:28 -0500, super70s says...
>
>> "frivolous" election claims
>
> =====
>
> "These voting machines can be hacked quite easily."
Yup. They're WinDos machines. Whaddaya expect?
Dhu
>
> "Flashback: Democrats Said Voting Machines Can Be Hacked "
>
> "No, they didn't."
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Adam Schiff(D): "I continue to think that our voting machines are too vulnerable (to being hacked)."
>
> https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/07/19/heres-proof-that-democrats-were-concerned-about-voter-fraud-very-
> recently-n1462962
>
> https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-democrats-voiced-the-same-concerns-as-gop-about-voter-fraud-in-2018
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee(D): "Researchers have repeatedly demonstrated that ballot recording machines and other voting systems are
> susceptible to tampering."
>
> "Recently I wrote to the Department of Justice regarding the recent attempts to HACK into voter machines and at least two
> successful breaches into election system..."
>
> https://jacksonlee.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congresswoman-sheila-jackson-lee-asked-that-the-department-of-justice
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Val Demings(D):
> "Even hackers with limited prior knowledge tools and resources, are able to
> breach voting machines in a matter of minutes."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/07/19/heres-proof-that-democrats-were-concerned-about-voter-fraud-very-
> recently-n1462962
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Jennifer Wexton(D):
> "In 2018, electronic voting machines in Georgia and Texas deleted votes for
> certain candidates or switched votes from one candidate to another."
>
> https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-democrats-voiced-the-same-concerns-as-gop-about-voter-fraud-in-2018
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Sen. Ron Wyden(D):
> "The biggest seller of voting machines, is doing something that violates
> cybersecurity 101... ... directing that you install remote access software
> which would make a machine like that, you know, a magnet for fraudsters and
> hackers."
> "43 percent of American voters use voting MACHINES that researchers have found
> have serious security flaws, including the back doors."
>
> https://www.westernjournal.com/flashback-democrats-said-voting-machines-can-hacked-votes-can-switched/
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Ted Lieu(D):
> "These voting machines can be HACKED quite easily."
>
> "Workers were able to easily hack into electronic voting machine... it was possible to switch votes."
>
> "In a close (unintelligible... "present day"?) election, they just need to have one swing state, or maybe one or 2, or maybe just
> a few counties in one swing state."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Sen. Amy Klobuchar(D):
> "You could easily hack into them. It makes it seem like all these states are doing different things, but in fact, 3 companies are
> controlling that."
>
> "hack" = hack
>
> "I am very concerned that you could have a hack that finally went through."
>
> "hack" = hack
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
>
> "Ms. Kelly"(D):
> "It is the individual voting machines that some pose... that pose some of the greatest risk(of being hacked)."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> VICE PRESIDENT Kamala Harris(D):
> "They're a lot of states that are dealing with antiquated machines. Right? Which are vulnerable to being hacked."
>
> "Hacked" = hacked
>
> "I actually held a demonstration for my colleagues here at the capitol, um, where we brought in, um, folks, who, before our eyes,
> hacked election machines... um, those that are not... those that are being used in many states."
>
> "Hacked" = hacked
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Sen. Mark Warner(D):
> "We know how vulnerable now, our systems were, we know, I know, that hackathon that took place last year, where virtually every
> machine was broken into fairly quickly."
>
> "Hackathon" = been hacked
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
> =====
>
> Rep. Zoe Lofgren(D):
> "Aging systems also frequently rely on unsupported software like windows XP and 2000, which may not receive regular security
> patches, and are thus, more vulnerable to the latest methods of cyber attacks."
>
> "More vulnerable to the latest methods of cyber attacks" = hackable
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmsqwHy-wkQ
>
>
> =====
>
> stupor70's toddler behaviour:
>
> A) Someone's psychological or emotional age is often evident in emotional reactions and habits.
>
> B) Signs of emotional toddler behaviour include emotional escalations, blaming,
> lies, and name-calling.
>
> C) Someone who is an emotionally Toddler may also have poor impulse control,
> need to be the center of attention, or ENGAGE IN BULLYING.
>
> 1. Emotional escalations
>
> 2. Blaming
>
> 3. Lies
>
> 4. Name-calling
>
> 5. Impulsivity-or as therapists say, "poor impulse control"
>
> 6. Need to be the center of attention
>
> 7. Bullying
>
> 8. Budding narcissism
>
> 9. Immature defenses
>
> 10. No observing ego-that is, no ability to see, acknowledge, and learn from their mistakes
>
> How can you assess if an adult functions emotionally more like a toddler? As a therapist who works extensively with couples, I
> have learned that almost any client can look reasonably "adult" when I meet with him or her individually.
>
> By contrast, seeing the same client in a couples therapy session where spouses are interacting gives me vastly more data.
> Mistaken, immature, and pathological behaviors all become much more visible. I also see the extent to which each partner's
> actions are rude, hurtful, or even dangerously Toddlerish-or calm, respectful, and maturely adult.
>
>
> What Is Emotional Age?
>
> A psychologist from Africa with whom I once spoke at an international psychology conference explained to me that in his country,
> it was common to assess people in terms of both physical age and emotional age.
>
> Physical age can be counted by number of birthdays. Physical age, especially with toddlers, also tends to correlate with height,
> strength, and cognitive functioning. Psychological or emotional age, by contrast, becomes evident in emotional reactions and
> habits. For instance, adults can stay calm whereas toddler tend to be quicker to anger. Adults exercise careful judgment before
> talking whereas toddler may impulsively blurt out tactless, hurtful words.
>
> If toddlers want a car or doll that another toddler is playing with, they are likely to reach out and take the item. Most
> preschoolers get mad or cry multiple times every day, even if they are basically well-nurtured and happy kids. The rules of adult
> play, like taking turns or not grabbing, have not yet begun to shape their behavior. Youngsters do not act in a consistently
> civil manner because they have not yet internalized the rules of "civilized" adults.
>
> Behaviors that are normal for toddler however, look Toddlerish and rude when adults do them.
>
>
> CAN YOU RECOGNIZE TODDLERISH ADULT BEHAVIOR?
>
> One way to think about how young toddler differ from emotionally mature adults is to picture kids you know-maybe even your own
> toddler, grandtoddler, nieces, nephews, and neighbors. How do these toddler differ from adults that you know and respect?
>
> Before reading my list of characteristics that I look for, you might want to jot down a list of the traits that you noticed in
> your visualization. Please share with other readers in the comments below this article if you spotted some traits that I missed.
>
>
> 10 SIGNS OF EMOTIONAL TODDLER BEHAVIOUR
>
> How many of the following signs of emotional immaturity does your list include?
>
> Emotional escalations: Young toddlers often cry, get mad, or outwardly appear
> petulant and pouting. Grownups seldom do.
>
> Blaming: When things go wrong, young toddler look to blame someone. Grownups look to fix the problem.
>
> Lies: When there's a situation that's uncomfortable, young toddler might lie to stay out of trouble. Grownups deal with reality,
> reliably speaking the truth.
>
> Name-calling: toddler call each other names. Adults seek to understand issues. Adults do not make ad hominen attacks, that is,
> attacks on people's personal traits. Instead, they attack the problem. They do not disrespect others with mean labels.
>
> There is one exception. Sometimes adults, just like firefighters who battle forest fires, have to fight fire with fire. They may
> need to use "fire" to manage an angry toddler or an out-of-bounds adult, in order to get them to cease their bad behavior.
>
> Impulsivity-or as therapists say, "poor impulse control": toddler strike out impulsively when they feel hurt or mad. They speak
> recklessly or take impulsive action without pausing to think about the potential consequences. Similarly, instead of listening to
> others' viewpoints, they impulsively interrupt them.
>
> Adults pause, resisting the impulse to shoot out hurtful words or actions. They calm themselves. They then think through the
> problem, seeking more information and analyzing options.
>
> Again, some instances of acting on impulse can be hallmarks of mature behavior. Soldiers and police, for instance, are trained to
> discriminate rapidly between harmless and dangerous situations so that they can respond quickly enough to protect potential
> victims of criminal actions.
>
> Need to be the center of attention: Ever tried to have adult dinner conversations with a two-year-old at the table? Did attempts
> to launch a discussion with others at the table result in the toddler getting fussy?
>
> Bullying: A toddler who is physically larger than other toddler his age can walk up to another child who is playing with a toy he
> would like and simply take it. The other child may say nothing lest the bully turns on them with hostility. In many cases, it's
> safer just to let a bully have what he wants. Adults, on the other hand, respect boundaries: Yours is yours and mine is mine.
>
> Budding narcissism: In an earlier post, I coined the term tall man syndrome for one way that narcissism can develop. If toddler-
> or adults-can get whatever they want because they are bigger, stronger, or richer, they become at risk of learning that the rules
> don't apply to them. Whatever they want, they take. This narcissistic tendency may initially look like strength. But in reality,
> it reflects a serious weakness: being unable to see beyond the self.
>
> Psychologically strong people listen to others, hoping to understand others' feelings, concerns and preferences. Narcissists hear
> only themselves and are emotionally brittle as a result. They operate like toddler who want to stay out and play-even though
> dinner is on the table-and who pitch a fit rather than heed their parent's explanation that the family is eating now. Their
> mindset, in short, is "It's all about me." In the eyes of a narcissist, no one else counts; if they don't get their way, they may
> result to pouting or bullying in order to do so.
>
> Immature defenses: Freud coined the term defense mechanisms for ways in which individuals protect themselves and/or get what they
> want. Adults use defense mechanisms like listening to others' concerns as well as to their own. They then engage in collaborative
> problem-solving. These responses to difficulties signal psychological maturity. toddler tend to regard the best defense as a
> strong offense. While that defensive strategy may work in football, attacking anyone who expresses a viewpoint different from
> what they want is, in life, a primitive defense mechanism.
>
> Another primitive defense is denial: "I didn't say that!" or "I never did that!" when in fact they did say or do the thing they
> claim not to have done. Sound toddler-like to you?
>
> No observing ego-that is, no ability to see, acknowledge, and learn from their mistakes: When emotionally mature adults "lose
> their cool" and express anger inappropriately, they soon after, with their "observing ego," realize that their outburst was
> inappropriate. That is, they can see with hindsight that their behavior was out of line with their value system. They can see if
> their outburst has been, as therapists say, ego dystonic (against their value system).
>
> Adults who have not yet internalized mature guidelines of respectful behavior toward others, or who have not developed ability to
> observe their behaviors to judge what's in line and what's out of line, see their anger as normal. They regard their emotional
> outbursts as ego syntonic, that is, perfectly fine, justifying them by blaming the other person. In other words, "I only did it
> because you made me."
>
> If you or someone you know functions more like a toddler than like a grown-up, what are your options?
>
> It's easy to love toddler who act like toddler. It's harder to love someone who acts like a toddler in the body of a grownup.
> Still, most toddler-like adults only act like Toddlers when they feel under threat.
>
> Therefore, if you love someone who has Toddler-like sides, one strategy is to focus primarily on the more adult and attractive
> aspects of the person. If you are the toddler-like one, love your strengths-and pay attention to growing in your less mature
> habit areas.
>
> Another strategy is to cease being surprised when the Toddler-like patterns emerge. Thinking, "I can't believe that s/he/I did
> that!" signifies that you have not yet accepted the reality of the toddler-like behaviors. Accepting that the behaviors do occur
> is a first and vital step toward change.
>
> Third, if you are the receiver of Toddler-like behaviors, beware of trying to change the other person. Instead, figure out what
> you can do differently so those patterns will no longer be problematic for you. Your job is to keep growing yourself, not to
> change others.
>
> Lastly, learn the skills of adult functioning. Much of what grown-up "toddler" do can be considered as a skills deficit. If you
> tend to be Toddler-like, learning adult skills can move you into grownup-ville. My book and workbook called The Power of Two
> should help as well.
>
> And if you generally function as a grownup, the more clear you are about what constitutes grown-up behavior, the more you will be
> able to stay a grownup-even when you are interacting with someone who is acting like a toddler.
>
> Susan Heitler, Ph.D.
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