From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: This Is How Liberal Faggots And Rich Kids TRY to Gaslight You
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 22:23:19 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 12:54:48 -0700, Alan says...
> > If they come to a port of entry and declare they're defecting or seeking "asylum", then they are entitled to a hearing.
> >
> > If not... no.
> But they're arresting people in the middle of the country.
Who are I L L E G A L!
> They arrested a citizen and wouldn't even release him when he showed a
> birth certificate and social security card.
No. They were shown the Birth Certificate, AFTER arrest, and not till court hearing.
"A U.S.-born American citizen was being detained at the request of immigration authorities Thursday despite an advocate SHOWING
HIS U.S. BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN COURT and a county judge finding no reason for him to be considered an "illegal alien" who
illegally entered Florida.
> Good thing he got due process and got to appear before a judge, huh?
Yes.
THAT'S how we sort em out.
Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez could not prove his citizenship until AFTER his arrest and detention, so his arrest was not REALLY a
mistake.
When under ICE detention, it takes a little while to be fully "exonerated" and released.
If Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez had had documentation ON his person, he would probably not have been detained.
This is not WWII France or Italy, but we ARE trying to get rid of people who are here criminally, so there ARE going to be
mistakes made.
No one is being shot in the streets or dying in detention centers, like when O B A M A was President.
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Death Rates among Detained Immigrants in the United States
Published online 2015 Nov 12
WHO was President in 2015, and for nearly 7 years?
Why, none other than Barack Obama.
Megan Granski, Allen Keller, and Homer Venters*
Paul B. Tchounwou, Academic Editor
Author information Article notes Copyright and License information
Abstract:
The United States system of immigrant detention centers has been the subject of considerable scrutiny with respect to health care
of detainees.
We sought to characterize the rates and types of deaths that have occurred within this system between the years 2003?2015. We
analyzed a file of detainee deaths released by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security as part of a freedom of information
request.
Between 2003 and 2015 (SIX years of Obama's administration), 150 deaths were recorded. During this time period, the annual rate
of death among detainees dropped dramatically, whether measured by annual admissions or by person years of exposure. The most
common causes of death were cardiovascular, cancer and suicide. More research is needed to adequately account for the
contributors to these declining rates of death in immigration detention settings.
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ICE Releases Reports for 18 Migrants Who Died in Detention, Medical
Neglect Is Suspected
Jul 21, 2016, 9:03am Tina Vasquez
WHO was President in 2016, and for nearly 8 years?
Why, none other than Barack Obama.
Though the death reviews released by ICE provide further insight into the conditions inside detention centers, the bigger concern
among researchers and advocates is what they don't know.
"We spend a lot of time talking about the disturbing conditions in detention centers-that's what our report is about. But step
one requires taking a step back and rethinking this system and how it's unnecessary and also abuses vulnerable peoples' rights,"
said Clara Long, a researcher with Human Rights Watch.
A new report from Human Rights Watch (HRW) documents the deaths of 18 migrants in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody
from mid-2012 to mid-2015. In some cases, the deaths were likely preventable and the result of "substandard medical care and
violations of applicable detention standards."
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."