From: "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.russian.z1,alt.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: about destructive consequences
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300
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Dhu on Gate, <news:vuivi2$1q0q8$1@dont-email.me>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:47:21 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>>> The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
>>>> slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
>>>> destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.
>
> Boris Johnson is exemplary of what is behind this war: six centuries
> of the "Great Game" to prevent Russia from acquiring a "Warm Water Port".
> But the Wierld has changed and Russia has a functioning "Northern Sea
> Route" to China that's only gonna open wider, so the entire premise of
> the Game is an economic bogosity driven by an Elizabethan mentality.
Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time. The British were
glad when Russian Cossacks entered Paris, but soon they were
overwhelmed by morbid jealousy due to the fact that Russia
became one of the key, if not the most important, architects
of the post-Napoleonic order in mainland Europe. The Crimean
War in the mid-19th century aimed to impose British order on
Europe. One Englishman once said that things were good for
Britain until it started interfering in the mainland Europe
affairs. Incompetent British design in the longer run turned
out untenable: fallout from the Crimean War naturally led to
the WW1 and the subsequent destructive / catastrophic events.
Ultimately, British Empire had itself collapsed too.
In the worldwide context, Europe is much less important now
compared to how important it was in the 19th century. So one
can see the bigger picture, that namely the British jealousy
towards Russia initiated a series of destructive events that
undermined the Europe's global role as well as undermined the
British Empire itself. This historical example illustrates
the fact that too much obsession is not a productive feeling.
Before the 19th century, there were no big issues between
Britain and Russia. For a hundred years, since 1560s to mid-
17th century, Britain was Russia's main trade partner among
European states. At the time, Britain managed to develop
its fleet largely due to getting necessary stuff from Russia.
The trade cooperation still did not prevent king James-1
from planning a conquest of Russia from the north during the
Russia's "Time of Troubles" (but those Russia's troubles
still didn't turn out badly enough to implement this plan).