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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

> Dhu on Gate, <news:vuivi2$1q0q8$1@dont-email.me>
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:47:21 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>>
>>>>> The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
>>>>> slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
>>>>> destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.
>>
>> Boris Johnson is exemplary of what is behind this war: six centuries
>> of the "Great Game" to prevent Russia from acquiring a "Warm Water Port".
>> But the Wierld has changed and Russia has a functioning "Northern Sea 
>> Route" to China that's only gonna open wider, so the entire premise of
>> the Game is an economic bogosity driven by an Elizabethan mentality.
> 
> Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
> Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time. The British were

Over four hundred, anyways.  Originally started up with 
Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out* 
the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
taken outta the English fur trade.  

But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of 
Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
over it's control for over three hundred years.  New Amsterdam
was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.

Dhu

> glad when Russian Cossacks entered Paris, but soon they were
> overwhelmed by morbid jealousy due to the fact that Russia
> became one of the key, if not the most important, architects
> of the post-Napoleonic order in mainland Europe. The Crimean
> War in the mid-19th century aimed to impose British order on
> Europe. One Englishman once said that things were good for 
> Britain until it started interfering in the mainland Europe 
> affairs. Incompetent British design in the longer run turned
> out untenable: fallout from the Crimean War naturally led to
> the WW1 and the subsequent destructive / catastrophic events.
> Ultimately, British Empire had itself collapsed too.
> 
> In the worldwide context, Europe is much less important now
> compared to how important it was in the 19th century. So one
> can see the bigger picture, that namely the British jealousy
> towards Russia initiated a series of destructive events that
> undermined the Europe's global role as well as undermined the
> British Empire itself. This historical example illustrates
> the fact that too much obsession is not a productive feeling.
> 
> Before the 19th century, there were no big issues between
> Britain and Russia. For a hundred years, since 1560s to mid-
> 17th century, Britain was Russia's main trade partner among
> European states. At the time, Britain managed to develop
> its fleet largely due to getting necessary stuff from Russia.
> The trade cooperation still did not prevent king James-1
> from planning a conquest of Russia from the north during the
> Russia's "Time of Troubles" (but those Russia's troubles 
> still didn't turn out badly enough to implement this plan).





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