From: "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.russian.z1,alt.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: about destructive consequences
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:24:53 +0300
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Dhu on Gate, <news:vunfgu$1velj$3@dont-email.me>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
>> Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time.
>
> Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
> Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
> the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
> taken outta the English fur trade.
...
> But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
> Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
> over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
> was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
> requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.
Little known today, but in the 16-18 centuries, in Europe, the
Russian-produced leather was considered premium-exclusive luxury
good (Westerners mastered similar techniques since 19 century).
Also the early Russia-England trade wasn't about fur only.