From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.russian.z1,alt.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: about destructive consequences
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:19:09 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:24:53 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Dhu on Gate, <news:vunfgu$1velj$3@dont-email.me>
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
>>> Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time.
>>
>> Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
>> Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
>> the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
>> taken outta the English fur trade.
>
> ...
>
>> But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
>> Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
>> over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
>> was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
>> requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.
>
> Little known today, but in the 16-18 centuries, in Europe, the
> Russian-produced leather was considered premium-exclusive luxury
> good (Westerners mastered similar techniques since 19 century).
>
Automating/mechanizing these production technologies was an English
forte: *Imitation* Italian or Russian goods made by machines.
Intellectual Property was a delusion to England's Pirates ;-)
Dhu
> Also the early Russia-England trade wasn't about fur only.
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris.
Vix ea nostra voco. (<<< we'd like to forget! ;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell