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Skeeter OG wrote:
> In article <vv0p5l$3h5bn$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>> On 2025-05-01 10:52, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>> In article <vuto8t$phvr$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>
>>>> ...is believing Trump when he claimed before being elected that the
>>>> stock market was doing well because of him...
>>>>
>>>> ...but 100 days into his administration, it's Biden's fault it's cratering.
>>>
>>> You blamed Trump for Afghanistan soooo.
>> Because his actions were to blame.
> 
> Nope, he wasn't president.

Didn't have to be. It was his agreement that was in
effect.


https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific-islamic-state-group-taliban-politics-afghanistan-01ac38c793ca71a2ec099c226e50e7c8
October 8, 2020

The U.S. military was blindsided Thursday by
President Donald Trump’s assertion that all U.S.
troops will be out of Afghanistan by the end of
the year, with U.S. officials saying they are
not aware of such a plan and have gotten no
actual order to accelerate the more gradual
pullout they’ve been executing.

Trump’s comments, laid out in a confusing
progression of comments and a tweet, alarmed
Pentagon and State officials who fear that
putting a definitive date on troop withdrawal
could undercut negotiations to finalize a peace
deal between the Taliban and the Afghan government.
They also fear a hasty withdrawal could force the
U.S. to leave behind sensitive military equipment.
And they continue to stress that the Taliban has
still not met requirements to reduce violence
against the Afghans, a key element of the U.S.
withdrawal plan.

The Taliban welcomed Trump’s announcements ...



https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse/
Trump's deal with the Taliban set the stage
for the Afghan collapse
08/17/21

"...this was a "withdrawal" agreement between
the U.S. and the Taliban that set the terms
for the complete departure of American troops
from Afghanistan by May 2021.

What did the United States gain in exchange for
this withdrawal, for which the Taliban had been
fighting for 20 years? Nothing but vague,
unenforceable promises that the Taliban would not
engage in hostilities against the departing U.S.
troops and would "send a clear message" to al
Qaeda that it had no place" in Afghanistan. So
eager Trump was to withdraw, we did not even
hold out for a clear, firm commitment that the
Taliban would not provide aid, safe harbor or
weaponry to al Qaeda and like-minded groups.
The agreement contained no enforcement
mechanisms and included no penalties on the
Taliban for failing to comply with its terms."


>> What we absolutely know is that up until Trump's changes in policy, all
>> was well in the US economy.
> 
> What does that have to do with Afghanistan?
>>
>> By every metric you can think of, things have been made worse since
>> Trump's changes.
>>
>> The Afghanistan situation is analogous to being handed the controls of
>> an aircraft that was put into a steep dive by the previous pilot and
>> being unable to pull up successfully.
> 
> Joe Biden could have done it many other ways. He got
> people killed.

So did the FELONdent.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/opinion/trump-taliban-deal-diplomacy.html

Mr. Trump agreed to withdraw all coalition forces from
Afghanistan in 14 months, end all military and contractor
support to Afghan security forces and cease “intervening
in its domestic affairs.” He forced the Afghan government
to release 5,000 Taliban fighters and relax economic
sanctions.