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From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: True TDS...
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 14:49:46 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: NetKnow News

In article <vv1l2p$ccm4$15@dont-email.me>,
Gronk  <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Skeeter OG wrote:
>> In article <vv0p5l$3h5bn$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>> On 2025-05-01 10:52, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>> In article <vuto8t$phvr$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ...is believing Trump when he claimed before being elected that the
>>>>> stock market was doing well because of him...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but 100 days into his administration, it's Biden's fault it's cratering.
>>>>
>>>> You blamed Trump for Afghanistan soooo.
>>> Because his actions were to blame.
>> 
>> Nope, he wasn't president.
>
>Didn't have to be. It was his agreement that was in
>effect.
>
>
>https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific-islamic-state-group-taliban-politics-afghanistan-01ac38c793ca71a2ec099c226e50e7c8
>October 8, 2020
>
>The U.S. military was blindsided Thursday by
>President Donald Trump’s assertion that all U.S.
>troops will be out of Afghanistan by the end of
>the year, with U.S. officials saying they are
>not aware of such a plan and have gotten no
>actual order to accelerate the more gradual
>pullout they’ve been executing.
>
>Trump’s comments, laid out in a confusing
>progression of comments and a tweet, alarmed
>Pentagon and State officials who fear that
>putting a definitive date on troop withdrawal
>could undercut negotiations to finalize a peace
>deal between the Taliban and the Afghan government.
>They also fear a hasty withdrawal could force the
>U.S. to leave behind sensitive military equipment.
>And they continue to stress that the Taliban has
>still not met requirements to reduce violence
>against the Afghans, a key element of the U.S.
>withdrawal plan.
>
>The Taliban welcomed Trump’s announcements ...
>
>
>
>https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse/
>Trump's deal with the Taliban set the stage
>for the Afghan collapse
>08/17/21
>
>"...this was a "withdrawal" agreement between
>the U.S. and the Taliban that set the terms
>for the complete departure of American troops
>from Afghanistan by May 2021.
>
>What did the United States gain in exchange for
>this withdrawal, for which the Taliban had been
>fighting for 20 years? Nothing but vague,
>unenforceable promises that the Taliban would not
>engage in hostilities against the departing U.S.
>troops and would "send a clear message" to al
>Qaeda that it had no place" in Afghanistan. So
>eager Trump was to withdraw, we did not even
>hold out for a clear, firm commitment that the
>Taliban would not provide aid, safe harbor or
>weaponry to al Qaeda and like-minded groups.
>The agreement contained no enforcement
>mechanisms and included no penalties on the
>Taliban for failing to comply with its terms."
>
>
>>> What we absolutely know is that up until Trump's changes in policy, all
>>> was well in the US economy.
>> 
>> What does that have to do with Afghanistan?
>>>
>>> By every metric you can think of, things have been made worse since
>>> Trump's changes.
>>>
>>> The Afghanistan situation is analogous to being handed the controls of
>>> an aircraft that was put into a steep dive by the previous pilot and
>>> being unable to pull up successfully.
>> 
>> Joe Biden could have done it many other ways. He got
>> people killed.
>
>So did the FELONdent.
>
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/opinion/trump-taliban-deal-diplomacy.html
>
>Mr. Trump agreed to withdraw all coalition forces from
>Afghanistan in 14 months, end all military and contractor
>support to Afghan security forces and cease “intervening
>in its domestic affairs.” He forced the Afghan government
>to release 5,000 Taliban fighters and relax economic
>sanctions.
>
>
>

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