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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: LOL... Democrats Are So Desperate To Spin Lies and Conspiracies - LOL... Rudy's Never Heard of Quit Pro Quo
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 00:35:59 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Sat, 10 May 2025 08:22:15 -0700,  Lou Bricano says...  

> Some countries have turned to the satellite internet firm in conjunction with trade talks, STATE DEPARTMENT STAFFERS WROTE.

Who?

More "anonymous" sources... more fake news.

Typical left-wing progressive Drag Queen spin. The "state department staffers" were providing information on business as usual, 
and the lie-site WaPo decided to spin it like Axios, Slate and Vox do.

They take the truth, which these state department staffers gave out freely, and turn into into a conspiracy!

Wanting to keep Chinese, and every other communist country out of countries like Lethoso and the others mentioned, is SOP, you 
fucking moron.

Show us where it says, that if these countries don't take up Starlink's OFFERS, they don't get good tariff deals.

Go ahead, midget... let's see THOSE state department staffer's quotes on that. 

> The U.S. has a strategic interest in countering Chinese internet providers, but Musk's role complicates the picture.

Why?

How?

Musk isn't a part of the "tariff" scene. He's with DOGE, stupid.

Musk and Starlink are in a place where they CAN provide wireless/satellite Internet service.

Are there any other remote Internet providers offering quotes and bids? And are they set up to do it now? Can they, or WILL they 
do it for the price Starlink can?

HIGHLY doubtful.

Let's see who those companies are, too.

'The decision drew a mention in an internal State Department memo obtained by The Washington Post, which states: "As the 
government of Lesotho negotiates a trade deal with the United States, IT HOPES THAT LICENSING STARLINK DEMONSTRATES GOODWILL AND 
INTENT to welcome U.S. businesses".'

Oh NO!

Those EVIL bastards!!

That sounds like a DEMAND to me!

Goodwill and intent. LOL

Yeah... that strikes fear into countries all over the world, I'm sure, runt.

I bet Musk's going to all the countries and screaming at their leaders, "YOU VILL DOO THEES, OHR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES!"

THAT'S not forcing anyone to do anything, worm.

"Lesotho is far from the only country that has decided to assist Musk's firm while trying to fend off U.S. tariffs."

And WHO says they're NOT mutually exclusive. 

WHO is saying, that if you don't choose Starlink, you can't "fend off" a tariff? No... that's the Washington Post's bullshit 
conflation.

If you don't choose Starlink, you get shit?

> The company reached distribution deals with two providers in India in March and has won at least partial accommodations with
> Somalia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Vietnam, although this is probably not a comprehensive
> count.

Yeah... and?

> have turned to the satellite internet firm in conjunction with 
> trade talks, State Department staffers wrote.

How did this become "public"? Because they weren't hiding anything, you fucking moron. Again... WaPo is taking "business as 
usual" and spinning it into some kind of conspiracy, JUST to see how much shit they can throw on the wall and it stick.

That's the M.O. of all left-wing lie sites like them and The New York Times. Lie or spin as much as you can, then see WHO 
believes you and who KNOWS you're lying... then retract on page 15L.

> Trump and Musk are corrupt and need to die.

Only fucking psychos say shit like that, so...

Reported to your Usenet provider and Homeland security, and I'm sure one of both will take that seriously.

You act like there's never been any quid pro quo in the history of the Democrat Party and Presidents.

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Have you already forgotten what Biden did for green energy companies and others?

The Democratic Party's support for the solar industry: The Democratic Party has long supported the solar industry, and the Biden 
administration has continued to promote the use of solar energy through tax credits and other incentives. Companies like SUNRUN 
AND VIVINT SOLAR HAVE BENEFITED from these policies, which have been criticized by some Republicans, who argue that they are too 
costly and benefit large corporations at the expense of taxpayers.

The Biden administration's decision to waive sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline: In 2021, the Biden administration waived 
sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which will transport natural gas from Russia to Germany. The decision was criticized by 
some Republicans, who argued that it BENEFITED COMPANIES LIKE GAZPROM, the Russian state-owned energy company, and Uniper, a 
German energy company, at the expense of US energy interests.

The US-China trade deal: In 2020, the Trump administration negotiated a trade deal with China, which included provisions that 
benefited companies like Boeing and Intel. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS CONTINUED TO IMPLEMENT THE DEAL, which has been 
criticized by some Democrats, who argue that it does not do enough to address China's trade practices and benefits large 
corporations at the expense of smaller businesses and workers.

The Biden administration's support for the US semiconductor industry: In 2021, the Biden administration announced plans to 
support the US semiconductor industry, including a $50 billion investment in semiconductor manufacturing and research. The move 
was seen as a benefit to companies like Intel and Micron, which have lobbied for increased government support for the industry.

There ARE more.

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Have you already forgotten what Obama did?

He gave a no-bid contracts to Halliburton.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) negotiations: During the Obama administration, the US Trade Representative (USTR) office was 
accused of giving favorable treatment to certain companies, such as pharmaceutical and tech firms, in exchange for their support 
of the TPP. For example, the USTR reportedly pushed for stronger intellectual property protections in the TPP, which benefited 
companies like Pfizer and Microsoft.

The Keystone XL pipeline decision: In 2015, the Obama administration rejected the Keystone XL pipeline project, which would have 
transported oil from Canada to the US. However, some critics argued that the decision was influenced by the interests of 
billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who owns a significant stake in the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) railway, which would 
have competed with the pipeline for oil transportation business.

The Ex-Im Bank reauthorization: In 2015, the Obama administration and Congressional Democrats supported the reauthorization of 
the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im Bank), which provides financing for US companies to export goods and services. However, some 
critics argued that the bank's activities often benefit large corporations, such as Boeing and General Electric, at the expense 
of smaller businesses and taxpayers.

The Uranium One deal: In 2010, the Obama administration approved the sale of Uranium One, a Canadian uranium mining company, to 
Rosatom, a Russian state-owned nuclear company. The deal was criticized by some Republicans, who argued that it gave Russia 
control over a significant portion of the world's uranium supply and benefited companies like Uranium One, which had donated to 
the Clinton Foundation.

There ARE more.

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Have you already forgotten what Clinton did?

The Most Favored Nation (MFN) trade status for China: In 1994, the Clinton administration granted China MFN trade status, WHICH 
ALLOWED CHINA TO EXPORT GOODS TO THE US AT LOWER TARIFFS. The DECISION WAS SEEN AS A BENEFIT TO companies like BOEING, IBM, AND 
INTEL, which had significant business interests in China. Critics argued that the decision was made in exchange for campaign 
contributions and lobbying efforts by these companies.

The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA): The Clinton administration negotiated and signed NAFTA in 1993, which created a 
free trade zone between the US, Canada, and Mexico. The agreement was seen as A BENEFIT TO COMPANIES like GENERAL MOTORS, FORD, 
AND CHRYSLER, which had significant manufacturing operations in Mexico. Critics argued that the agreement LED TO JOB LOSSES in 
the US and benefited large corporations at the expense of workers and the environment.

The Telecommunications Act of 1996: The Clinton administration supported the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which deregulated 
the telecommunications industry and ALLOWED COMPANIES LIKE ATANDT, VERIZON, AND SPRINT TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS. The law was 
seen as a benefit to these companies, which had lobbied heavily for its passage.

The Clinton administration's support for the Indonesian timber industry: In the 1990s, the Clinton administration was accused of 
supporting the Indonesian timber industry, which was linked to deforestation and human rights abuses. Companies like Georgia-
Pacific and Weyerhaeuser had significant business interests in Indonesia, and critics argued that the administration's support 
for the industry was influenced by lobbying efforts by these companies.

The Loral Space and Communications Ltd. scandal: In 1996, the Clinton administration was accused of approving the transfer of 
sensitive missile technology to China, which benefited companies like Loral Space and Communications Ltd. The company's CEO, 
Bernard Schwartz, was a major donor to the Democratic Party, and critics argued that the administration's decision was influenced 
by his contributions.

There ARE more.

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Methinks letting Musk and Starlink try to sell their goods in countries that NEED their goods, PALES in comparison.