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On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 14:41:50 -0400, -hh says... 

> > You stupid fucking nerd.
> > 
> > Ronald Reagan's dead, so HE won't be the one giving them amnesty IN THE FUTURE, idiot.
> 
> Doesn't matter

Uhhh... yes, it does.

> because the point is that the GOP has already granted 
> amnesty to millions of 'illegal' immigrants

So?

And?

We learn from our mistakes.

> And despite how they've 
> now changed their tune to scaremongering that the Democrats *might* do 
> the same as they've already done, the facts are that the outcome of 
> Regan's amnesty program wasn't the end-of-the-world doom and gloom.

Yeah, because they were MANAGEABLE. 

3 Million... TOPS!

And HOW many years had they been building up to that point?

Guess what, Einstein?

Biden let in 2x+ as many in his FOUR short years.

As of January 2024, more than 7.2 million migrants had illegally crossed into the U.S. over the Southwest border during U.S. 
President Joe Biden's administration - a number higher than the individual populations of 36 states. 

Snopes: True

> > That's about the stupidest thing a nerd can say. Why you fuckers always 
> > always use the past, as if it's either the way things are
> > in the present, or WILL be in the future.
> 
> The reason why? Why it is because these actions of the past so reliably 
> reveal your present hypocrisy.

What Reagan did had NOTHING to do with TODAY'S Conservatives.

> > Holeman and Gronk do the same thing. Y'all act like whatever's happened in 
> > the past, still happens and is going on now and will in the future.
> 
> Oh, you mean: "Those who forget the past... "?

Well, we won't do THAT again. We are NOT going to forget the past. We know what a mistake it was. You seem to agree, by talking 
about it as though it WAS a mistake.

Why else would you use that "Those who forget the past... "? bullshit.

We're 'doomed" to repeat it?

Nope.

That means you agree it was a mistake.

> For you need to own up to your own past and take responsibility for it, 

There ya go, again. And yes, that WAS a pun. Responsibility for what? See? YOU think it was a mistake. REAGAN made that mistake. 

There are so few in office now, who were in office when Reagan was President, so HOW in the FUCK could you blame anyone else BUT 
Reagan and the Republicans AND Democrats who were in office back then?

Hal Rogers (R-KY): First elected in 1980, began serving in January 1981.

Chris Smith (R-NJ): First elected in 1980, began serving in January 1981.

Chuck Grassley (R-IA): First elected to the Senate in 1980, began serving in January 1981. (He previously served in the House 
starting in 1975).

Mitch McConnell (R-KY): First elected to the Senate in 1984, began serving in January 1985.

What... you don't think these DEMOCRATS wanted amnesty?

Chuck Schumer (D-NY): First elected to the House in 1980, began serving in January 1981. He later moved to the Senate in 1999.

Dick Durbin (D-IL): First elected to the House in 1982, began serving in January 1983. He later moved to the Senate in 1997.

Steny Hoyer (D-MD): First elected in 1981, began serving in 1981.

Marcy Kaptur (D-OH): First elected in 1982, began serving in January 1983.

No sir... amnesty for illegals was THEIR fault, not mine and probably 99% of other Republicans alive today.

> as well as take responsibility for how you've flip-flopped

WHO said ANYONE today "flip-flopped"?

Read carefully.

The amnesty program under the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was the result of a complex, BIPARTISAN EFFORT 
that evolved over several years.

Whose Idea Was It?

The concept of addressing undocumented immigration through a combination of increased enforcement and legalization was not solely 
one person's idea, but rather a culmination of policy discussions and proposals:

(don't blame "us" bitch)

PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER FIRST PROPOSED a comprehensive immigration reform package in 1977 that included employer sanctions and a 
form of amnesty.

President Ronald Reagan reiterated the need for similar reforms, including legalization, when he took office in 1981. He famously 
said in 1984, "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they 
may have entered illegally."

The primary congressional sponsors of the bill that became IRCA were Senator Alan K. Simpson (R-Wyoming) and Representative 
ROMANO L. MAZZOLI (D-KENTUCKY). The bill is often referred to as the "Simpson-Mazzoli Act." They chaired their respective 
immigration subcommittees and were instrumental in drafting and shepherding the legislation through Congress.

The effort was largely driven by a bipartisan consensus that the existing immigration system was "out of control" and that a 
"one-time" legalization was necessary to address the large number of undocumented immigrants already living in the country, 
coupled with measures to deter future unauthorized immigration.

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