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Subject: Sorry Y'all... Snopes Article Way A Year Out Of Date - The Numbers Are Worse That I Led On
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 17:36:41 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
Check Your Fact added the total number of nationwide encounters representing FY 2021 to FY 2024 to date and arrived at...
...10,680,891.
Back in May 2024, the Republican-led House Committee on Homeland Security issued a press release stating the Biden-Harris
administration was "on track" to reach 10 million nationwide encounters "well before the end of the fiscal year" on September 30.
Likewise, according to Poynter, the number of illegal encounters that have occurred during the Biden-Harris administration at the
U.S. border is around...
... 10 million...
... but the number increases to...
... 11.6 million...
... when accounting for "got-aways." Citing data from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Poynter indicated that
"around 3.8 million people have been released into the U.S. to await immigration court hearings."
Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million, TOPS... 3 million. That number was from an accumulation or decades... not 4 years.
In addition to Poynter, CBS News also fact-checked Trump's claim, reporting CBP "has recorded over 8 million encounters with
migrants at the southern border since Mr. Biden took office in 2021." Furthermore, the outlet noted that an estimated over 1.7
million migrants have "evaded apprehension since the start of fiscal year 2021, " while another 4 million have either been
"turned away or deported" since the same time period.
Despite these variations in numbers, an August 2024 update from CBP indicates "encounters between ports of entry have decreased
by more than 50%" following announcement of the Presidential Proclamation and complementary Interim Final Rule (IFR) on June 4.
From June 5 to September 10, DHS "has removed or returned more than 131,000 individuals to more than 140 countries, including
operating more than 400 international repatriation flights, " according to the same update.
Multiple experts shared their perspectives on the claim with Check Your Fact.
David J. Bier, director of Immigration Studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, said the IMMIGRATION POPULATION "HAS INCREASED
3 MILLION from 2020 to 2023, " according to Census Bureau data.
"The Census Bureau survey shows that the immigrant population has increased 3 million from 2020 to 2023, " Bier said. Bier also
directed Check Your Fact to a September 13 blog post he authored for the Cato Institute that indicated that while the immigrant
population increased 3 MILLION FROM 2020 TO 2023, this number is "1 million lower" than the Census Bureau's 2017 projection.
2017??
Figure 1 included in the blog post tracks the total immigrant population from 2000 to 2023 as about 47.8 million compared to the
Census Bureau's 2017 projection of 48.8 million. The data includes illegal immigrants, according to the blog post.
"The most recent research puts the estimated number of those unlawfully present at approximately 11 million to 12.8 million, "
Ligor said, citing data from DHS Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS), the PEW Research Center, and the Center for
Immigration Studies. "The estimated number has not changed dramatically since about 2005 as there are both inflows to and
outflows from the U.S. over time, " Ligor explained.
"Since 2021, the immigration court backlog has increased from approximately 1.4 million to 3.7 million, which means there are
just under 2.3 million new cases. The majority of those are cases resulting from encounters at the southern border. However, the
fact that these individuals are in immigration court means that they have been lawfully paroled into the U.S. in order to have
their case (to obtain lawful status) heard before an immigration judge, " he added.
"Between January 2021 and August 2024 (just 3.5 years) , there were 10.4 million encounters at all U.S. borders, covering both
people crossing borders without authorization or arriving at a port of entry without prior permission to enter. That 10.4 million
does not translate into 10.4 million people entering the country because encounters represent events, not individuals, and there
is always a degree of recidivism (people encountered by CBP and turned back crossing the border again and being re-encountered).
During the Title 42 expulsions policy in place between March 2020 and May 2023, recidivism soared. In FY 2021,27% of encounters
involved recidivists."
"Significant shares of encounters result in departures from the U.S. either through formal removal or return. And significant
numbers are also put into immigration detention. In August, for example, more than 50% of border encounters were placed in
expedited removal."
Simon Hankinson, senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation's Border Security and Immigration Center, said
Trump's estimate was "credible" based on studies conducted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Yale
University.
"Estimates of the number of people here in the U.S. illegally are just that - estimates. The number 12 million has floated around
for over a decade and is surely too low. There are between 16.8 million and 29 million aliens illegally present in the US
according to FAIR and Yale studies."
"About 10.5 million inadmissible aliens have been encountered (meaning technically arrested, but usually released soon after) by
DHS at our borders since Biden took office. We don't know the exact number released into the U.S. with Notices to Appear in
immigration court, a process which would lead to their removal unless they successfully claimed asylum or other protection. In
December 2023, Secretary Mayorkas said they released over 85% of those encountered that month. At that level, we'd be looking at
more than 8 million released since January 2021, " Hankinson said.
"Another 2 million or more (Mayorkas admitted to 600,000 per year) aliens entered the U.S. illegally without inspection (EWI) by
any U.S. officials. These 'gotaways' often sneak in because they have criminal records, warrants, contraband, or other things to
hide."
"Biden has used immigration parole on a scale, and by standards, unimaginable in previous times. His dubious, likely ultra vires
programs have brought in maybe 1.5 million more inadmissible aliens who have quasi-legal status, for two years, which can be
revoked at any time by a successor president. Biden's parole programs are bringing in at least 70,000 inadmissible aliens per
month using this workaround."
"[The] Bottom line [is] Former President Trump chose an estimate in between the FAIR and Yale studies. That there are 21 million
aliens with no legal status, or on parole, or fighting deportation, is a credible estimate. There is no doubt that under
President Biden, the entry of inadmissible aliens (meaning those who would never qualify for a visa to come here legally if they
applied) has been historically high, month after month, " he added.
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome, " or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."