From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: They Came Questionably Legal, And Now They're Back Home
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:57:18 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 6/1/25 16:08, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-06-01 12:37, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 14:41:50 -0400, -hh says...
>>
>>>> You stupid fucking nerd.
>>>>
>>>> Ronald Reagan's dead, so HE won't be the one giving them amnesty IN
>>>> THE FUTURE, idiot.
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter
>>
>> Uhhh... yes, it does.
>>
>>> because the point is that the GOP has already granted
>>> amnesty to millions of 'illegal' immigrants
>>
>> So?
>>
>> And?
>>
>> We learn from our mistakes.
>>
>>> And despite how they've
>>> now changed their tune to scaremongering that the Democrats *might* do
>>> the same as they've already done, the facts are that the outcome of
>>> Regan's amnesty program wasn't the end-of-the-world doom and gloom.
>>
>> Yeah, because they were MANAGEABLE.
>>
>> 3 Million... TOPS!
Yup, way back in 1986, when the US population was just 240M. Its nearly
40 years later and our population now is 347M, which is 45% higher, so
the same percentage being granted green cards today would be ~4.5M
>> And HOW many years had they been building up to that point?
Roughly the same as today, from the McCarren-Walter Act dates from 1952,
to the SimpsonâMazzoli Act of 1986 which ran through 1989, so a period
of 1989-1952 = 37 years...and 1989 to present is 36 years.
>> Guess what, Einstein?
>>
>> Biden let in 2x+ as many in his FOUR short years.
>>
>> As of January 2024, more than 7.2 million migrants had illegally
>> crossed into the U.S. over the Southwest border during U.S.
>> President Joe Biden's administration - a number higher than the
>> individual populations of 36 states.
>>
>> Snopes: True
>
> Let's put back what you left out:
>
> 'Context
>
> The number specifically reflected border encounters with U.S. officials,
> not an increase of that magnitude in the immigrant population.'
>
> And a little more from the Snopes article (and it becomes obvious why
> you left off the link, doesn't it?)
>
> 'Snopes contacted the White House for comment about the Fox News
> article. We received a response from a spokesperson for the Department
> of Homeland Security, who said, in part, that U.S. President Joe Biden's
> administration "has removed, returned, or expelled more migrants in
> three years than the prior Administration did in four years." This also
> was true, according to statistics provided on the DHS website. Further
> comment from DHS and a wealth of statistics are all laid out below.'
>
> <https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/million-migrants-border-biden/>
>
> Huh.
Makes sense, since the recent recidivism rate has been like ~25%, which
means that its nowhere close to 7.2M unique individuals, but just ~5M.
Plus roughly 45%-60% of encounters have had immediate expulsions, which
means that the number of unique individuals who actually get to making
any application are down to roughly just 2.5M.
> Remind me:
>
> Whose administration immediately preceded Biden's?
>
> And remember:
>
> While the Republicans were criticizing Biden's handling of the border,
> they were also refusing to pass a border reform bill...
>
> ...because Trump didn't want them to.
>
> You should read the entire article...
>
> ...even if you need some help with the bigger words.
>
> :-)
Precisely: one can't bitch about the perpetuation of a problem when
you've actively supported votes against solving it.
-hh