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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: They Came Questionably Legal, And Now They're Back Home
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 15:41:27 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 6/2/25 13:38, AlleyCat wrote:
> 
> None of what -homo-habilis wrote, matters.

Translation:  AlleyCat is pwned, so he whines & whines & whines...


-hh

> 
> He's acting like Reagan giving amnesty to 3 million illegals is what the problem is.
> 
> Hell, I'm not sure what his argument IS, after reading it.
> 
> Does he even know what the issue IS?
> 
> Methinks not, since he hearkens back to Reagan.
> 
> Why?
> 
> WHAT does telling us what Reagan did, helpful NOW?
> 
> WE aren't the ones wanting to give amnesty to illegals, you stupid fuck.
> 
> That would be the Democrats.
> 
> Are you saying that's OK, because Reagan did it?
> 
> WE don't think so, and neither should you, unless YOU want more illegals to come in and vote Democrat some day.
> 
> Tell us... what EXACTLY are you arguing against and/or for?
> 
> ===============================================================================
> 
> "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
> 
> All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
> 
> "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
> of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
> 
> Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
> three distinct phases or stages:
> 
> "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
> as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
> 
> "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
> solely of hyperbole."
> 
> "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
> 
> The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
> Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
> nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
> positively by TDSers.
> 
> The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
> a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
> 
> Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
> Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
> in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."
> 
> Added Krauthammer:
> 
> "Some clinicians consider this delusion - that Americans can only get their news from one part of the political spectrum - the
> gravest of all. They report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with flash cards with the
> symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times - they remain
> unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor."
> 
> (If you don't realize the idea of TDS or BDS is - in no small part - meant in a tongue-in-cheek manner then, well, you may well
> have it.)
> 
> Trump allies believe that TDS is worse than ODS or BDS - by a lot. Wrote conservative pundit Bernie Goldberg on Real Clear
> Politics in early 2017:
> 
> "Before the election, the victims of TDS routinely compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Guess what. They're still doing it. Articles
> in respectable publications written by professors at elite universities are warning us to be on guard, that a Trump presidency
> could imperil democracy-as-we-know-it and may very well spell doom for American civilization.
> 
> "On election night, as it became obvious that their worst nightmare was about to come true, some libs fainted. Some vomited. Many
> more threatened to leave the country, but I'm pretty sure none actually did. As Donald Trump might say in a tweet: so sad!"
> 
> The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as
> nothing more than the blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more broadly, the rise of presidential
> derangement syndromes is a function of increased polarization - not to mention our national self-sorting - at work in the country
> today.
> 
> We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any differently than us. We watch cable news that
> affirms what we already think. We read ideological "news" sites that tell us how good our side is and how bad the other one is.
> And on and on and on.
> 
> Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who disagree with us into the "deranged" category? To say
> that those who don't share our views are mentally deficient in some way?
> 
> What does it say about a President - and about a country - when the standard response to those with whom you disagree is that
> they must be crazy? Nothing good, for sure.
> 
> =====
> 
> Many clinicians, political commentators, and members of the public have speculated upon the mental health of President Donald
> Trump. Indeed, over 70,000 people self-identifying as "mental health professionals" have signed a petition declaring that "Trump
> is mentally ill and must be removed." In sociological terms, the "medical gaze" has been hitherto focused on President Trump, and
> to a lesser extent his ardent supporters.
> 
> However, in recent months, many have been questioning the direction of this "medical gaze." In fact, more and more people are
> suggesting that this "medical gaze" should be reversed and refocused on President Trump's most embittered and partisan opponents.
> Some have even suggested that these opponents are experiencing a specific mental condition-a condition which has been labelled
> "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS).
> What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?
> 
> Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) known
> as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book contains 947 pages and lists
> hundreds of mental disorders; TDS is nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases such as MEDLINE and Google
> Scholar reveal no academic papers on this alleged syndrome. Officially at least, TDS is not a real, diagnosable, or treatable
> mental disorder.
> 
> That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document. Indeed,
> social scientists have long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders that are considered real
> conditions by the general public, even though they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include categories such as
> "burnout" or "nervous breakdown."
> 
> As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real mental condition.
> 
> 
> Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"
> 
> There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk category rather than a professional category. As such,
> there is currently much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without consensus.
> 
> The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as "a characteristic combination of
> opinions, emotions, or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth suggestions about opinions, emotions and
> behaviors characterizing TDS.
> 
> Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President Trump trigger some people into distorted opinions,
> extreme emotions and hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed behavioral examples of TDS among
> Trump's political opponents, including fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces" and others demanding "therapy
> dogs." Political commentator Justin Raimondo focuses on opinions, language and cognition, writing in the LA Times that "sufferers
> speak a distinctive language consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a constant state of hysteria... the afflicted lose touch with
> reality."
> 
> Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania
> in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration
> and admiration, but on fear and loathing.
> 
> Contrariwise, many others ridicule the notion that TDS is anything but a malicious slur term used to discredit and delegitimize
> criticism of President Trump. For example, CNN's Chris Cillizza may speak for many when he stated: "The truth is that TDS is just
> the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than blind hatred."
> Likewise, Adam Gopnik writes that "our problem is not TDS; our problem is Deranged Trump Self-Delusion."
> 
> In other words, there are polarized opinions about the nature, reality and existence of TDS.
> 
> 
> Conclusion
> 
> The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend considerable time and energy behind closed doors
> pondering over the existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the DSM five times since 1952,
> considerably expanding the list of official mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am aware, few psychiatrists are
> currently arguing that DSM-6 should contain TDS as a mental disorder.
> 
> That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states that "a mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by
> clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior... mental disorders are usually
> associated with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important activities."
> 
> Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of
> President Trump, so much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such people may need
> mental health support. As such, further research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President Trump, in the
> same way that researchers investigate other extreme social phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on
> the reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by many as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."
>