From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Antarctic and Arctic Ice Trends Defy Climate Models And Dire
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 19:24:11 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 6/4/25 16:51, JTEM wrote:
> Â -hh wrote:
>
>> YMMV; I see it as a translation of statistical scientific data to be
>> at a simpler level that the nontechnical public can understand it.
>
> You misspelled "Bullshit."
Hey kids! This guy is an example of why the Army has to write
instruction manuals way down at the 5th Grade reading level.
> Statistically, a half century of failed predictions means one thing
> and one thing only:Â It's crap. It's all crap. It's all baseless.
No, not baseless at all. As I said (and you *bravely* snipped), there's
been factual direct measurement of sea level rise in our own lifetime.
That uses the same fundamental sciences which measure the seasonal ebb &
flow of sea ice and plots means, variances and trends.
>> FYI, the same thing happens when you go to see your Doctor and they
>> discuss risks of things like side effects to you:Â they don't say "a
>> N% probability", but instead use common language expectation terms
>> like 'can', 'may', 'should(n't)', 'rare', 'very rare', etc.
>
> If your doctor predicted side effects for 50 years without a single
> one ever coming into being, that means he's speculating.
Or it means that you've been lucky to have not been adversely affected
by a series of very low probabilities, just like how you've been buying
Powerball tickets for decades, but still have never hit the jackpot.
>>> People have sailed from the Atlantic to the Pacific man times.
>>
>> Most of the time via Cape Horn, not
>
> Not the topic. The northwest passage has been used many times, with
> evidence going back to the Vikings.
Incorrect: historically, the Vikings never got any further west than
Devin Island, on the western side of Baffin Bay off of Greenland.
And even today, Viking Cruise line *still* doesn't transit the Northwest
passage to the Bering Sea either: their "Into the Northwest Passage"
cruise only sails into the eastern portion of the passage & then returns
East, as can be seen on their itinerary map here:
<https://www.vikingcruises.com/expeditions/cruise-destinations/great-lakes-canada/canada-and-the-northwest-passage/index.html>
-hh