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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Antarctic and Arctic Ice Trends Defy Climate Models And Dire
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 19:26:03 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 6/4/25 18:57, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-06-04 15:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
>> In article <101q3pu$vj3o$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2025-06-04 11:07, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>>> In article <101pp1e$t5ks$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-06-03 22:56, JTEM wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're such a coward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the Arctic was supposed to be ice free by 2000. When is it going
>>>>>> to be ice free?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't recall anyone saying that.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the trend is unmistakably down; in both the Arctic and Antarctic.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic- 
>>>>> interactive-sea-ice-graph>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go there and see for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can it constantly be shedding ice like a cat sheds hair in the
>>>>>> spring, yet it always has ice?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ALSO:  How is it that there was less ice 130,000 years ago, CO2 was
>>>>>> lower and sea level was 16 feet higher from all that extra water?
>>>>>
>>>>> Show your basis for those claims.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are pretending that it's unusually -- UNNATURALLY -- warm, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not pretending. It is getting warmer. And it is doing so at a RATE
>>>>> which is not just unusual, but utterly unprecedented.
>>>>
>>>> It's summer.
>>> The rate of change of the average temperature of the earth, doofus.
>>>
>>> And just to help your limited mind out, it is NOT summer yet. Summer
>>> begins on June 20.
>>>
>>> And moreover, on June 20, it won't be summer in half the world. In the
>>> southern hemisphere, it will be winter.
>>
>> and the world will keep on spinning and do as it wishes
>> like it's done forever.
> 
> That doesn't mean changes in the world which won't prevent it spinning 
> won't have negative consequences for US.

Precisely what I told 'JTEM':

"Now there's no question that the 'Earth will Survive', but that's not 
really our primary concern:  it is how much economic damage will it 
invariably do to the US & World economies which will reduce our quality 
of life?"


-hh