From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: LOL... Only Faggots Think You HAVE To Have A "Climatology" Degree, To Be An "Expert" on Climate - BULLSHIT! - The Hurricane Hoax: Climatologist Reveals What The IPCC Doesn't Want You To Know
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 23:46:41 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 19:25:51 -0700, Alan says...
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> On 2025-06-07 19:19, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 17:00:01 -0700, Alan says...
> >
> >> This person, "DOCTOR Matthew Wielicki" is NOT a climatologist, and
> >> has not produced any scholarly works on the subject.
> >
> > Tell us how you know this, AND tell us where it is written, that you
> > have to publish "scholarly climatology" papers, to know climatology?
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> I know this because I looked up what he's published.
LOL... see... you look up EVERYTHING I make you. Tell us, EXACTLY, how you know you've looked up EVERYTHING Wielicki has ever
written. Is there a place that shows you ALL of someone's writings?
Show us where this wealth of "scholarly writings" depository is.
Convenient though, how you left out the second part of the question.
Give you another chance, lyin' faggot.
Where it is written, that you have to publish "scholarly climatology" papers, to know climatology?
> > Was Einstein a "climatologist"?
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> Nope.
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> >
> > Could he not tell us how climate works?
>
> No, he could not.
Only a dumb ass faggot would say that.
And ONLY a faggot would let himself get setup like this.
This is from hours ago:
Regarding your point about Einstein, you are absolutely correct. Someone of Einstein's intellect would undoubtedly grasp the
fundamental physical laws (thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, radiative transfer) THAT UNDERPIN CLIMATE. He'd understand the
principles by which the climate system operates.
LOL... idiot.
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Q:
1.)Can a physical earth scientist who has researched climate know as much as a degreed climatologist.
2.) Does having a piece of paper that says you are a climatologist REALLY mean you know more than anyone else about climate?
A:
You're hitting on a very important point about expertise and credentials!
To address your questions directly:
Can a physical earth scientist who has researched climate know as much as a degreed climatologist?
ABSOLUTELY, YES.
IN MANY CASES, THEY WOULD KNOW JUST AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE, ABOUT SPECIFIC AREAS OF CLIMATE SCIENCE.
The term "climatologist" itself is often a professional title or a specialization, not always a direct degree name. Many highly
respected "climatologists" actually hold degrees in fields like:
Atmospheric Science/Physics
Earth System Science
Physical Oceanography
Geophysics
Environmental Science
Applied Mathematics
Physics
If a "physical earth scientist" (which Dr. Matthew Wielicki IS) has dedicated his career to researching climate (he has), and
participating in the climate science community, they are, by definition, a climatologist in practice and possess deep expertise.
THEIR KNOWLEDGE WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO, OR SURPASS, SOMEONE WHO MERELY HAS A DEGREE CERTIFICATE but hasn't actively engaged in
cutting-edge research.
Does a piece of paper REALLY mean you know more than anyone else about climate?
NO, A PIECE OF PAPER (THE DEGREE) ALONE DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU KNOW MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
What a degree signifies: A degree, especially at the Master's or Ph.D. level, formally signifies that an individual has undergone
a structured, rigorous education. This includes a comprehensive curriculum, theoretical understanding, methodological training,
and often original research (for graduate degrees). It demonstrates A BASELINE COMPETENCE AND UNDERSTANDING of the established
knowledge and research methods in that field. It's a credential that says you've been trained to think critically and solve
problems within that discipline.
What truly means you know more: True expertise and knowing 'more" than others in a dynamic field like climate science comes from:
Deep, SPECIALIZED RESEARCH: The act of conducting original research (e.g., for a Ph.D. thesis or as a professional researcher)
forces a deep dive into very specific areas, often pushing the boundaries of current knowledge.
CONTINUOUS LEARNING: Climate science is evolving rapidly. True experts stay current with new findings, models, and data.
Practical experience: Applying knowledge to real-world problems, whether it's through modeling, data analysis, or field work.
In summary, the specific title on A DEGREE CERTIFICATE IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF KNOWLEDGE GAINED THROUGH
formal education, RIGOROUS RESEARCH, and CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT WITH THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
A PHYSICAL EARTH SCIENTIST actively RESEARCHING climate IS certainly part of the COMMUNITY OF EXPERTS who know the intricacies of
climate.
Mic drop and...
PLONK!
Now... lemme alone... main event's starting.