From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Yet Another Insurrectionist Democrat!
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 19:17:17 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-06-14 15:29, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> Democrat Rep. Ted Lieu is now telling the National Guard to DISOBEY
>> orders from President Trump.
>>
>> That's INSURRECTION!
>>> This is absolutely unacceptable.
>>
>> https://x.com/i/status/1933214166409413038
> No. He did NOT tell anyone to do anything except read the relevant law
> and decide for themselves.
>
> And since the United States has not been invaded...
>
> ...and there hasn't been a rebellion (protests aren't that)...
>
> ...and even if there were the law states:
>
> "Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the
> States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the
> commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia."
>
> Which was not done.
>
> Trump's order was therefore unlawful,
>
> And military personnel have a duty to refuse to obey unlawful orders.
>
> You know that if you'd ever served in the military.
>
> 'In the oath that service members take, they pledge to âobey the orders
> of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers
> appointed over meâ¦â The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
> specified that they are required to obey âthe lawful orders of his/her
> superior.â'
>
> <https://www.militaryjusticecenter.com/blog/2022/03/can-you-recognize-an-unlawful-order/>
>
Seems that AlleyCat doesnât understand that the Oath is to the US
Constitution and it carries a personal obligation to not obey illegal
orders.
-hh