From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Yet Another Insurrectionist Democrat!
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:31:46 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-06-14 16:17, -hh wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-06-14 15:29, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> Democrat Rep. Ted Lieu is now telling the National Guard to DISOBEY
>>> orders from President Trump.
>>>
>>> That's INSURRECTION!
>>>> This is absolutely unacceptable.
>>>
>>> https://x.com/i/status/1933214166409413038
>> No. He did NOT tell anyone to do anything except read the relevant law
>> and decide for themselves.
>>
>> And since the United States has not been invaded...
>>
>> ...and there hasn't been a rebellion (protests aren't that)...
>>
>> ...and even if there were the law states:
>>
>> "Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the
>> States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the
>> commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia."
>>
>> Which was not done.
>>
>> Trump's order was therefore unlawful,
>>
>> And military personnel have a duty to refuse to obey unlawful orders.
>>
>> You know that if you'd ever served in the military.
>>
>> 'In the oath that service members take, they pledge to âobey the orders
>> of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers
>> appointed over meâ¦â The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
>> specified that they are required to obey âthe lawful orders of his/her
>> superior.â'
>>
>> <https://www.militaryjusticecenter.com/blog/2022/03/can-you-recognize-an-unlawful-order/>
>>
>
> Seems that AlleyCat doesnât understand that the Oath is to the US
> Constitution and it carries a personal obligation to not obey illegal
> orders.
The CAF has just such an obligation as well.