From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: "Big Beautiful Bill" Massively Unpopular With Voters
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:55:16 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-06-20 04:24, NoBody wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 11:15:51 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-06-19 04:02, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:21:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-06-18 04:30, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 19:09:19 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 09:51:05 -0400, NoBody says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06112025_usfa29.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the point of asking the question if they support the bill when
>>>>>>> they clearly don't know enough about it to have an informed opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course this information was available to both you and "truthout"
>>>>>>> (laughter) but you chose not to find it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's exactly why I said this: "Why Lee Lee Dare Not List The Questions
>>>>>> Posed In Polls"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mr39ebdp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These polls are used as propaganda tools. They don't deal in truth. At this point, I don't know why they even BOTHER will polls. Trump's
>>>>>> not going anywhere. What good is a poll at this point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They can screech, "IMPEACH", all they want. If they couldn't get him impeached before after doing some questionable things, HOW can they
>>>>>> impeach him now? WHAT has he done that's an impeachable offense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deport ILLEGALS without due process? Hell... EVERY President has done that, since they started deporting ILLEGALS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've already proven that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah the usual suspects around here - Bradley, Lying Lee, Siri and the
>>>>> endless version of the moron Rudely simply can't deal in facts.
>>>>
>>>> The facts are there...
>>>>
>>>> ...and they don't look good for you MAGAts:
>>>>
>>>> "Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling -
>>>> immigration issues?"
>>>>
>>>> 54% disapprove.
>>>>
>>>> Read the poll for yourself:
>>>>
>>>> <https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06112025_usfa29.pdf>
>>>
>>> Laughter.
>>>
>>> 16. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling -
>>> immigration issues?
>>> REGISTERED VOTERS.....................
>>> Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom
>>> Approve 43% 87% 4% 43% 55% 32%
>>> Disapprove 54 9 95 52 41 65
>>> DK/NA 3 3 1 5 3 4
>>>
>>> You can see by looking at the responses that the poll oversampled
>>> Democrats as their responses carried far too much weight to the
>>> average.
>>
>> How is that shown? Explain.
>
> Oh good grief.
>
> If only 4% of Republicans disapprove but 95% of Democrats disapprove
> and they get a total of 43% disapproval, this would indicate a high
> bias to Democrats.
It would.. ...if that's what had happened.
But you haven't show that is what happened, and have instead inferred
that that must be the reason.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Oh and how come they don't include party affiliation questions
>>> anymore?....
>>
>> And yet, they include party affiliation breakdowns.
>>
>
> Irrelevant since we do not know the party make up of the total. This
> used to be a standard metric included in political polls. Now they
> hide it.
Actually, we do.
And it isn't hidden.
>
> Why?
>
>> Again: explain.
>>
>> Oh, and look at that!
>>
>> They include a link to their website where you can view the methodology
>> of the poll!
>
> Would you be kind enough to post that link as it relates to this
> specific poll? I don't see it in the poll. Just a generic link to
> their website.
Funny how you whine when I ask for such, but I'll continue being the
bigger person:
You go to that website:
<https://poll.qu.edu>
Click the HUGE article right at the top:
<https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924>
And then click the "Sample and Methodology" link:
<https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06112025_demos_usfa29.pdf>
From there you read:
"PARTY IDENTIFICATION QUESTION WORDING - Generally speaking, do you
consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what?
REGISTERED VOTERS
PARTY IDENTIFICATION
Republican 26%
Democrat 28%
Independent 36%
Other/DK/NA 9%"
Kind of destroys your bullshit, doesn't it?