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On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:21:23 +0000,  Mitchell Holman says...
> 
>> Why Are Retirees Leaving Florida?
> 
> Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.

How so?  Wouldn't "liberal" policies be to actually put enough funds 
into escrow for maintenance, as opposed to capitalistic "conservatives" 
who only cares about the next quarterly results and tries to ignore long 
term?


> It's nothing "Florida's" done.

Except for how they had a Laissez-faire regulatory environment. That 
changed a little after the Condo collapse, with House Bill 1203 which 
took effect in 2024:  that provided some very bare minimum HOA 
requirements for budgetary disclosure, audits and for reserves.


> Insurance companies knew what they were getting into when they came here, now,
> they're over-charging.

If that were actually true, then FL's "Insurer of last resort" wouldn't 
need to have surcharge provisions if they run out of money.


> It's still behind California.

Which means what, specifically?  More vague allusions from Brietbart?


> Clue to the clueless: it ain't the politics.

If true, then why did FL politicians legislate changes to HOA's & P&C?


> People of all ages also have recently packed up and moved out of the 
> Sunshine State after BACK-TO-BACK STORMS this year.

Just what storms are you referring to?  Because the Big Bend region is 
what got hit (twice) last year, but no hurricane has made landfall in 
southern FL since Hurricane Ian hit the Fort Meyers area in 2023.


> I've been here since 1965. I KNOW the risks.


Yet you don't "know" (to share) what your P&C Insurance cost is, and how 
much it has gone up since even just 2019.

> People are coming here for the beauty, and finding out you have to PAY for
> that beauty.

People have been pitched how there's no winter, so retirees can play 
golf year-round/etc ... but have actually gotten sold a load of goods in 
the form of cheap swampland.

> The tourists gladly hand over their money to stay in places on the coasts.
> 
> Look WHERE the people who moved away tried to live.



> Guess what, liberal faggots... while it is true that we lost half a million in
> 2023, we actually GAINED more... 637,000 people moved to the state from across
> the country that year too... stupid.
> 
> So... net GAIN.

Interesting claim in how it directly contradicts your above statement of 
"packed up and moved out".  In any event, if one's going to talk about 
migration trends, what percent are retirees that aren't nominally 
looking for economic opportunities?


> Keep focusing on the negative. That's all you faggots can do.
> 
> According to the latest numbers, Florida led the nation with a net income
> migration of almost $36.1 billion annually.

And after removing the pensions & SS of all of the retirees, what is it?


> According to "U.S. News and World Report," the Chamber said, Florida ranks top
> in the nation for higher education and first in four-year college
> affordability.

Florida ranks well in Higher Ed because their schools are cheap; but 
that needs to be tempered by with how for K-12, their ranking is 22nd.

> Florida has long been a hotspot for relocation due to its appeal to people
> from high-cost states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and California.

What percentage of relocations are for improved economic opportunity, as 
opposed to looking for a cheap, warm place to retire?


> Historically, Florida remained attractive because, despite rising prices, it
> was STILL CHEAPER THAN THESE HIGH-TAX STATES.

Doesn't do a damn bit of good when FL's P&C Insurance costs are higher 
than what's paid in those "high tax" states, because what matters is how 
much income is left to live on after paying for core living expenses.

Of course, there's also going to be some who claim they "know the risks" 
from hurricanes and not pay for homeowner's insurance (P&C), and half 
the time the real reason is because they can't actually afford it.


-hh