From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: CondoPocalypse - Can't GIVE 'Em Away in South Forida
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:26:02 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 6/26/25 15:43, -hh wrote:
> On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:21:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
>>
>>> Why Are Retirees Leaving Florida?
>>
>> Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.
>
> How so? Wouldn't "liberal" policies be to actually put enough funds
> into escrow for maintenance, as opposed to capitalistic "conservatives"
> who only cares about the next quarterly results and tries to ignore long
> term?
>
>
>> It's nothing "Florida's" done.
>
> Except for how they had a Laissez-faire regulatory environment. That
> changed a little after the Condo collapse, with House Bill 1203 which
> took effect in 2024:Â that provided some very bare minimum HOA
> requirements for budgetary disclosure, audits and for reserves.
>
>
>> Insurance companies knew what they were getting into when they came
>> here, now,
>> they're over-charging.
>
> If that were actually true, then FL's "Insurer of last resort" wouldn't
> need to have surcharge provisions if they run out of money.
>
>
>> It's still behind California.
>
> Which means what, specifically? More vague allusions from Brietbart?
>
>
>> Clue to the clueless: it ain't the politics.
>
> If true, then why did FL politicians legislate changes to HOA's & P&C?
>
>
>> People of all ages also have recently packed up and moved out of the
>> Sunshine State after BACK-TO-BACK STORMS this year.
>
> Just what storms are you referring to? Because the Big Bend region is
> what got hit (twice) last year, but no hurricane has made landfall in
> southern FL since Hurricane Ian hit the Fort Meyers area in 2023.
>
>
>> I've been here since 1965. I KNOW the risks.
>
>
> Yet you don't "know" (to share) what your P&C Insurance cost is, and how
> much it has gone up since even just 2019.
>
>> People are coming here for the beauty, and finding out you have to PAY
>> for
>> that beauty.
>
> People have been pitched how there's no winter, so retirees can play
> golf year-round/etc ... but have actually gotten sold a load of goods in
> the form of cheap swampland.
>
>> The tourists gladly hand over their money to stay in places on the
>> coasts.
>>
>> Look WHERE the people who moved away tried to live.
>
>
>
>> Guess what, liberal faggots... while it is true that we lost half a
>> million in
>> 2023, we actually GAINED more... 637,000 people moved to the state
>> from across
>> the country that year too... stupid.
>>
>> So... net GAIN.
>
> Interesting claim in how it directly contradicts your above statement of
> "packed up and moved out". In any event, if one's going to talk about
> migration trends, what percent are retirees that aren't nominally
> looking for economic opportunities?
>
>
>> Keep focusing on the negative. That's all you faggots can do.
>>
>> According to the latest numbers, Florida led the nation with a net income
>> migration of almost $36.1 billion annually.
>
> And after removing the pensions & SS of all of the retirees, what is it?
>
>
>> According to "U.S. News and World Report," the Chamber said, Florida
>> ranks top
>> in the nation for higher education and first in four-year college
>> affordability.
>
> Florida ranks well in Higher Ed because their schools are cheap; but
> that needs to be tempered by with how for K-12, their ranking is 22nd.
>
>> Florida has long been a hotspot for relocation due to its appeal to
>> people
>> from high-cost states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and
>> California.
>
> What percentage of relocations are for improved economic opportunity, as
> opposed to looking for a cheap, warm place to retire?
>
>
>> Historically, Florida remained attractive because, despite rising
>> prices, it
>> was STILL CHEAPER THAN THESE HIGH-TAX STATES.
>
> Doesn't do a damn bit of good when FL's P&C Insurance costs are higher
> than what's paid in those "high tax" states, because what matters is how
> much income is left to live on after paying for core living expenses.
>
> Of course, there's also going to be some who claim they "know the risks"
> from hurricanes and not pay for homeowner's insurance (P&C), and half
> the time the real reason is because they can't actually afford it.
Gosh ... wonder what Florida sinkhole poleCat crawled (fell?) into? /s
-hh