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From: Alan Bond <bondrock@ifx.net>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 18:53:15 -0700

On 7/3/2025 1:39 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 14:58:10 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:op.283kuqcybyq249
>> @pvr2.lan:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Snip
>>>> that has  shaped—and continues to shape—
>>>> social norms, institutions, and power  relations
>>>
>>> That is just mindlessly repeating the same mindless crap
>>>
>>
>> About the only thing Prodestants have in common is they're not Catholic.
>>
> This was a big thing in George Washington's war of independence
> America's main denomination of Christianity was the Church of England
> (CoE),
> Who is headed by the British Monarch, during the  War CoE members were
> CoE and considered British loyalists and informers,
> The British used the CoE to control the colonies (appoint Governors,
> Judges, tax collectors, etc.)
> After war changed its name to the
>   "Protestant Episcopal Church" in the United States
> This transition reflected both a break from the Church of
> England—whose clergy were required to swear allegiance to the British
> monarch—and the need for a new, independent identity that matched the
> political realities of the new nation.
> The American founding fathers were very Christian, seen in their law
> making, the way Americans behave, their laws, etc.
Every fucking word of this is bullshit. The majority of America's founders were 
deists, and even among those who professed Christian faith, they weren't 
particularly devout.

In *no way* was the U.S. founded as a "Christian nation," and the Constitution 
is not in any way "based on" Christian dogma. What is astonishing is how 
complete the divorce of government from religion was in under 200 years, given 
that several of the original colonies were founded as expressly religiously 
based political entities with legally established churches. Once the 
disestablishment movement got going, there was no stopping it. Right-thinking 
Americans *want* a wall of separation between church and state.