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From: Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns,can.politics,or.politics,aus.politics,sac.politics
Subject: Re: tRUMP's DEI Whites Only Elitist Boys Club
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 03:38:59 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0pbe6ktdvrnrp57sk2pdbdqj9p81jhinkb@4ax.com: 

> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 23:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> 
>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in 
>>news:pipd6khogvg2jbf473rdoo23e3plant1ak@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 14:58:10 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>news:op.283kuqcybyq249 @pvr2.lan:
>>>>
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Snip 
>>>>>> that has  shaped—and continues to shape—
>>>>>> social norms, institutions, and power  relations
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is just mindlessly repeating the same mindless crap
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>About the only thing Prodestants have in common is they're not 
>>Catholic.
>>>>
>>> This was a big thing in George Washington's war of independence
>>> America's main denomination of Christianity was the Church of
>>> England (CoE), 
>>> Who is headed by the British Monarch, during the  War CoE members
>>> were CoE and considered British loyalists and informers,
>>> The British used the CoE to control the colonies (appoint Governors,
>>> Judges, tax collectors, etc.)
>>> After war changed its name to the
>>>  "Protestant Episcopal Church" in the United States
>>> This transition reflected both a break from the Church of
>>> England—whose clergy were required to swear allegiance to the
>>> British monarch—and the need for a new, independent identity that
>>> matched the political realities of the new nation.
>>> The American founding fathers were very Christian, seen in their law
>>> making, the way Americans behave, their laws, etc.
>>
>>No, they were not "very Christian" - many were Deists.
>>
>>==============
>>AI Overview
>>WERE THE FOUNDING FATHERS CHRISTIAN? | Faith and History
>>The religious beliefs of the Founding Fathers were varied,
>>encompassing Christian denominations, Deism, and other perspectives.
>>While many were raised in Christian households and publicly expressed
>>Christian sentiments, some, like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin,
>>and Thomas Paine, also embraced Deism, according to Britannica. The
>>degree to which Deism influenced their views on governance and the
>>role of religion in public life is a subject of ongoing discussion. 
>>
>>
>>Influence on the Constitution:
>>While the Constitution does not explicitly mention God or
>>Christianity, it establishes a secular government that protects
>>religious freedom. The Founding Fathers aimed to create a nation where
>>individuals could practice their religion without government
>>interference. 
>>
>>No Single Definition of Christian:
>>It is inaccurate to assume that all Founding Fathers held the same 
>>religious views. Their individual beliefs and interpretations of 
>>Christianity varied, and some embraced Deism or other perspectives. 
>>
> Your AI is lying to you as most have a ant-Christian slant
> Mine corectly concludes
> https://www.perplexity.ai/search/were-the-u-s-founding-fathers-YqHnhkQw
> RN6PPmCJzKtMMQ<> 
>     https://tinyurl.com/47ypwhpp
> Most of the Founding Fathers identified culturally as Christians, but
> their personal beliefs often incorporated elements of Deism,
> rationalism, or unorthodox Christianity. Only a minority were
> traditional, orthodox Christians in the modern evangelical sense,
> while others were Deists or held beliefs that blended Christianity
> with Enlightenment rationalism
> 

They both say the same thing.