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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 06:48:59 -0700,  Rudy "Nym-Shifting" Canoza says...  

> >> On 2025-07-07 22:11, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:34:20 -0700,  Rudy "Nym-Shifting" Canoza says...
> >>>
> > 
> > *Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime* - Rudy Canoza
> 
> That's correct.

Nope.

(pertinent information, snipped by butthurt liberal, who can't take the truth... restored)


"If you commit an unlawful act, it can indeed be construed as a crime. A crime is, by definition, an act punishable by law, and 
unlawful acts fall under this category."

It does not MATTER that you don't consider "Unlawful Presence" a "crime", I guess meaning it's not a felony OR misdemeanor. I'm 
guessing you're thinking it's a civil matter?

That STILL doesn't matter.

"If you illegally broke into the United States, you are still guilty of the crime of illegal entry, even if you stay for "X" number 
of years."

"Under U.S. federal law (specifically 8 U.S. Code § 1325), improper entry by an alien is a crime. A first offense is typically a 
misdemeanor, and subsequent offenses can be felonies with more severe penalties."

"The act of 'illegally breaking into America' (unlawful entry) is a completed crime at the moment it occurs. The passage of time 
(like staying for "X" years) does not erase the fact that the initial act was a criminal offense. While the statute of limitations 
for prosecuting the initial illegal entry might pass for a misdemeanor, the act itself remains a crime that was committed." 

"Furthermore, simply being in the U.S. without authorization after an illegal entry is considered 'unlawful presence,' which 
carries its own civil and immigration consequences, INCLUDING GROUNDS FOR DEPORTATION, regardless of how long someone has been 
there."

>      As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
>      in the United States.

Depends on who's making the decisions, stupid. ONE court case did not change the laws.
 
>      United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
>      https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182

"reversed in part"

"An ARIZONA statute known as S. B. 1070 was enacted in 2010..."
 
Not federal and does not apply to other states.

"THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE GIVES CONGRESS THE POWER TO PREEMPT STATE LAW."

Did you even READ this?

Please list any and all passages that prove your point.

"As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States. See INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 
U. S. 1032, 1038 (1984)."

"General rules" are not laws.

1984???

So, when your hewo Obama deported 5.3 million of these "Unlawful Present" illegal aliens, was HE breaking Arizona law?

Did Arizona sue Obama?

"If the police stop someone based on nothing more than possible removability, the usual predicate for an arrest is absent."

Arrest? Is that why you're whining?

Illegals aren't being "arrested" per se. They are being detained to be deported.

"They may arrest an alien for being "in the United States in violation of any [immigration] law or regulation," for example, but 
only where the alien "is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained." 

LOL... "is likely"? No... more like probable.

MOST of the article reads like this:

In defense of §6, Arizona notes a federal statute permitting state officers to "cooperate with the Attorney General in the 
identification, apprehension, detention, or removal of aliens not lawfully present in the United States."

Meaning? If they are here ILLEGALLY, they CAN be "identified, apprehended, detained and removed".

End of story.

Again... this is state law, and most of it deals with COOPERATING with Federal law.
 
> > If it's not a "crime", how can it be "unlawful"?
> 
> In the same way that building an addition onto your house without securing a 
> permit is unlawful

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They are NOTHING alike OR "in the same way".

Stupid analogy.

Why are you pretending to be stupid, like your butt-buddy, Alan "Lakehouse Rich" Baker?

You can't use these stupid analogies, because NO ONE believes them, you psycho batshit crazy midget. 

LOL... look how I reduce this runt into a steaming pile of angry-little-girl. He's always saying what we say and do is not "adult-
like".

THIS is "adult-like"?

you goddamned squat-to-piss *fat* no-fight zero-achieving cocksucking Nazi faggot.

"You can't be convicted of it, and you can't be incarcerated for it..."

But you CAN be deported for it. Ask Barack Obama. He deported 5.3 MILLION who were here illegally and just in "Unlawful Presence" 
limbo. (see below)

Right?

Right.

"you goddamned squat-to-piss *fat* no-fight zero-achieving 
cocksucking Nazi faggot."

So nice, he had to say it twice.

LOL

Sooooo adult-like.

Nope.

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> *Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime*

Then, why did Obama deport FIVE MILLION, THREE-HUNDRED THOUSAND illegals?

During his two terms, President Obama oversaw approximately 5.3 million deportations of illegal immigrants, earning him the 
nickname 'deporter-in-chief." This included about 3.2 million deportations in his first term

Did he ONLY deport AT the border?

No.

So, he was deporting those GUILTY of "Unlawful Presence".

Unlawful entry is a crime. "Unlawful Presence" may not be a "crime", per se, but WHY spend billions of dollars on them? Does your 
mommy like paying for the illegal's

1.) phones?
2.) motel rooms?
3.) food?
4.) medical expenses?
5.) credit cards and money?
6.) (more?)

Just send them back.

Why do you want them here, runt?

Bet you're too chicken shit to answer truthfully.

Go ahead... give us your best lie, like: "they 'deserve' a chance to not be oppressed in their homeland", bullshit.

How many illegals are you and your mommy or aunt putting up in your house? If you think that America should pay for their greed, 
then you should, starting with providing them food and shelter, but nooooo.... NIMBY cock-suckers won't do that.

https://youtu.be/AcrfNKItPlI

annnnd thennn:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xzZKsPb8lTU?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/55mWz-M4Vx4?feature=share

https://youtu.be/ubwqj897pvM

https://youtu.be/P6V6T_8Pzkw

https://youtu.be/vCBK-k_N9Rg

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VdeRkV442q8?feature=share

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AlleyCat is one of the several people who dominate Rudy on a daily basis, keeping their bootheels on his little pencil neck to the 
amusement of all.

The TL;DR Version: Pathological liars, like Rudy, MAY LOSE HIS JOB, RELATIONSHIPS, AND PUBLIC STANDING BECAUSE THE LIES BECOME TOO 
RIDICULOUS OR NUMEROUS.

Called pathological liar, compulsive liar, or habitual liar, Rudy has a strong tendency to lie or exaggerate. Typically, he has no 
regard for the truth. 

What Is a Pathological Liar? 

Rudy, the pathological liar is a person who lies at a high frequency and has no regard for the repercussions of his lies. He will 
lie to anyone at any time about any issue. The lies could be big or small, detailed or vague, or orchestrated or spontaneous. For 
pathological liars, it seems his only goal is to lie. 

Typical lies have a clear purpose, including to avoid trouble, gain benefit, or impress HIMSELF.

A pathological liar differs from normal lying behavior based on the frequency, the duration, and the goal of his lies. 

The lies that a pathological liar, like Rudy, tells, are:

Lies that are extensive and overly complicated Lies and patterns of lying that last for years or a lifetime Lies that are 
disproportionate or unrelated to any end goal Lies that are not a result of another mental or medical health condition.

Well, we already KNOW that isn't true... Rudy has MULTIPLE mental problems. 

Based on these factors, Rudy's pathological lying could be defined as "a persistent, pervasive, and often compulsive pattern of 
excessive lying behavior that leads to clinically significant impairment of functioning in social, occupational, or other areas."

Other characteristic of Rudy's pathological lying are: 

It causes marked distress to the individual
It poses a risk to others
It occurs for longer than 6 months 

Rudy may also be called a:

Compulsive liar
Habitual liar
Chronic liar
Person with mythomania 
Person with pseudologia fantastica 


5 Signs of Rudy's Pathological Lying: 

Because his lies are often concealed well, Rudy, the pathological liar may be well disguised among other people. With time, the 
pattern of untruths and inconsistencies may become more apparent. For the most part, though, his pathological lies will blend in 
with the truth, making these statements challenging to discern. Even discovering the lies may not be enough to stop the liar from 
telling them.

Here are five signs of Rudy, the pathological liar:

Speaking in vague or general terms:

(BINGO!  or semantically vague... take your pick)

Liars, like Rudy, will try to avoid the future distress of having to recall what lies he has told to which people by keeping 
information loose and vague. 

Even something benign, like his favorite place to give blowjobs, can turn into a long story with no solid answer.

The goal of this behavior is to keep his answer from conflicting with any lies they may have told in the past.

Being overly specific or detailed: Alternatively, Rudy, the liar, may offer stories with numerous fine points and details. The plan 
here is to be so specific that no one could possibly question the truthfulness of the story because the details are convincing.

Inconsistencies in stories: Rudy, the pathological liar, will not have a perfect memory, so it is only a matter of time before he 
slips up by confusing one lie for another. Hearing multiple responses to the same question will be a way to identify a pathological 
liar.

Failure to commit to plans or often canceling plans: Rudy the pathological liar will avoid making plans or may make plans and 
frequently cancel. This is because he needs to keep his options open for other opportunities.

BECOMING ANGRY AND DEFENSIVE WHEN QUESTIONED: Rudy the liar, will make excuses when caught in a lie. When the other person's 
patience is thin, Rudy, the liar, may become angry or defensive to take the focus off of his lies. 

**FAGGOT**
 

5 Characteristics of Pathological Lying 

The seeming randomness and unimportance of pathological lies may surprise people. Some lies will have no influence or impact on a 
relationship or situation whatsoever. Any story, situation, or exaggeration a person can imagine may become a pathological lie. 
Specific lies are endless, but they often have commonalities. 

Pathological lies share these five characteristics:

Frequency:
Rudy, the pathological liar, lies more often than others and average about ten or MORE lies per day. In terms of frequency, the 
lies could all be variations of the same lie or 10 separate lies. To Rudy, the liar, the actual lie may not be as important as the 
process of lying.

Long in duration: 
Studies show that Rudy, the pathological liar, will continue with the excessive 
lying for at least six decades. He may continue with a lie over the 
long-term, or he may move from lie to lie with fluidity. Pathological 
liars, like Rudy, are typically able to maintain a lie for years.

Lacking purpose: 
Rudy's pathological lies are confounding because they serve no purpose and accomplish no goal, other than for himself. Rudy, the 
liar, may say that his favorite color is blue when it is actually orange or that his favorite food is pizza when it is really 
lobster. This lie does not benefit the liar, but they say it anyway.

Stress inducing:
Pathological liars, like Rudy, experience higher rates of stress from lying. The stress may come from the intricacy of ongoing lies 
and the risk of being caught.

Self-incriminating and defeating:
Standard lies can get Rudy out of trouble, but pathological lies get him into trouble.

Pathological liars, like Rudy, MAY LOSE HIS JOB, RELATIONSHIPS, AND PUBLIC STANDING BECAUSE THE LIES BECOME TOO RIDICULOUS OR 
NUMEROUS.