From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: A Flood Watch For Kerr County 12 HOURS In Advance, Then Issued A Flash Flood Warning Some Three Hours Before The Guadalupe River Began To Flood
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:33:47 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
The NWS office in Austin/San Antonio issued a flood watch for Kerr County 12 HOURS in advance, then issued a flash flood warning
some three hours before the Guadalupe River began to flood. You have no clue what you're talking about.
A Flood Watch For Kerr County 12 HOURS In Advance, Then Issued A Flash Flood Warning
Some Three Hours Before The Guadalupe River Began To Flood
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvNnveUXoAAYIQ_?format=png&name=900x900
This tragedy occurred in a location that has among the greatest risks in the nation of flash flooding, WHERE KIDS IN SUMMER CAMPS
HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN SWEPT AWAY TO THEIR DEATHS, and where warning systems are NOT IN PLACE.
The flood took place in a region of Texas that has long been called, "FLASH FLOOD ALLEY," and is pictured in the image above from
a 2022 article by Accuweather.
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The flooding was certainly extreme but it should not have been historically unexpected. The documented record of extreme flooding
in "flash flood alley" goes back several centuries, with paleoclimatology records extending that record thousands of years into the
past.
According to a contemporaneous 1846 account, cited in a fantastic 2006 PhD dissertation on flooding in Texas by William Keith
Guthrie, at the University of Kansas:
The Guadalupe would often rise fifteen feet above its normal stand after these heavy rains, carrying with it in its swift torrent a
number of large trees, uprooted farther up the hills. Smaller brooks, ordinarily not containing flowing water, became raging
torrents which could be crossed only by swimming.
Newsweek this week recalled an eerily similar event involving summer campers from 1987:
The disaster echoes aspects of a 1987 flood that killed 10 campers at a nearby Christian camp, local meteorologist Cary Burgess
told Newsweek on Sunday via email...
She noted that, while flooding like this 'doesn't happen often, " large scale ones "have occurred at least four times in the last
50 years."
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WHOSE fault was this?
Sanderson, Texas flood of 1965. Killed 26, including ten children. Bodies washed downstream as far as Laredo.
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Subject: More Bullshit From The Left Wing Drag-Queen Lovers
From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Date:
TX Hill Country
@TX_Hill_Country
10h
The flash flood warning didn't come until much later.
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Bullshit.
The warning came 3 hours BEFORE the flood.
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A watch means that conditions are favorable. The point is that it did not occur without any advance notice.
An emphatic no! The watch was issued 12 hours before the event. (the warning 3 hours before)
The NWS grossly underestimated the moisture in this storm. It continued north and flooded Burnet and Leander 24 hrs later.
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A flood watch was issued hours before that.
URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
Flood Watch
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
118 PM CDT Thu Jul 3 2025
TXZ183>187-202>204-041200-
/O.NEW.KEWX.FA.A.0003.250703T1818Z-250704T1200Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Val Verde-Edwards-Real-Kerr-Bandera-Kinney-Uvalde-Medina-
Including the cities of Del Rio, Leakey, Brackettville,
Kerrville, Bandera, Hondo, Uvalde, and Rocksprings
118 PM CDT Thu Jul 3 2025
... FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING...
* WHAT... Locally heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding across
portions of South Central Texas. Rainfall amounts of 1 to 3 inches
with isolated amounts of 5 to 7 inches are possible.
* WHERE... A portion of south central Texas, including the following
counties, Bandera, Edwards, Kerr, Kinney, Medina, Real, Uvalde and
Val Verde.
* WHEN... Through Friday morning.
* IMPACTS... Excessive runoff may result in flooding of rivers,
creeks, streams, and other low-lying and flood-prone locations.
Creeks and streams may rise out of their banks.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...
- A moist tropical airmass combined with a slow moving storm
system will bring rounds of scattered to widespread showers
and storms with heavy rain rates possible.
- http://weather.gov/safety/flood
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
You should monitor later forecasts and be alert for possible Flood
Warnings. Those living in areas prone to flooding should be prepared
to take action should flooding develop.