From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns,can.politics,or.politics,aus.politics,sac.politics
Subject: Re: "The Maga right is a big tent that welcomes outsiders. The left
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 07:43:34 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 7/11/25 12:08, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> On 7/10/25 15:54, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> [various attributions] ...
>> ...
>>
>> Pretty much, since its not directly a question of "taking [my] job",
>> but rather the economy's net costs for goods & services.
>> Specifically, this poster who's complaining about illegals is less
>> likely to be able to absorb the higher costs that having fewer total
>> workers (legal or not) would cause.
>>
>> TL;DR:Â if they bitched on $5 eggs, just wait until they're $9.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> FYI / Fun Fact:Â over 90% of current illegals have been here for 20+
>> years already ... because the big 'invasion' happened during Bush Jr.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if the farmer has to raise the price by 25 cents?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And then you scream hair-on-fire about inflation.
>>
>> Its not a mere $0.25 raise in question. I heard an interview last
>> weekend of a farmer who's currently offering $17/hr ... and still
>> can't get enough help.
>
> Understandable.
But the relevant question is going to be what level of pay increase will
finally get the farmer the labor they need? +$1/hr? +$5/hr? More?
Because that's what will ultimately factor into what the rise in costs
will be that will become retail inflation.
> That's below my pay grade ....
If you were considering taking that job, for now it is.
> You must make twice what I do.
Haven't thought about it, but that doesn't prevent anyone who's better
off from having empathy for how these policies are increasing the stress
on everyone's budgets & overall well-being.
> Would you switch from your $45/hr IT job to do farming for $17/hr?
Well, if that's what you're currently making, then a job change to this
wouldn't be a financial step up ... but that doesn't mean that you won't
be affected by the change: do you have the discretionary budget to
absorb a notional +10% increase in food costs?
And if so, just what discretionary item is being cut? After all, some
cuts hit harder than others: its less of an impact to give up the 4th
set of concert tickets in a year than the only concert, or changing the
only vacation trip to be a staycation, etc.
TL;DR: these higher costs inevitably will come home to roost. Those in
lower income brackets will be affected more than those in higher ones,
but no one will be totally unaffected.
-hh