From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Professor Richard Lindzen on Climate Change: Never Take Yourself So Seriously That You Have To Invent Problems - Part 4 - The Bogus 97 Percent Consensus
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 07:59:37 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
We hear it more and more nowadays. That there is now a 97 per cent consensus.
Oh, that's fake! How should I put it? It always depends on the question. So, for instance, if you asked a question if doubling CO2
is more likely to warm than to cool the Earth, I would think you'd get 100% agreement. But that's not the same as saying it's a
serious problem. So, at that level, if you ask the right question and put a funny interpretation on the answer, you can say all
scientists agree. You just haven't said what they agree with.
Then you have the paper by Cook that said 97% (Cook et al. 2013). They looked at journals and tried to find articles that discussed
certain impacts of climate. And so they looked at, don't take my numbers seriously - they looked at 1,000 articles, they found 40
articles that spoke about certain impacts. And for those 40 articles, they found 97% said so, and so they said 97% said that. But
it was like a few percent of the total (the case was even worse: it was ca 40 out of ca 12,000 - HS).
What is your opinion on this phrase itself: consensus, scientific consensus? Is it something that science is made of? Is it made of
consensus?
No, of course not. Whenever you hear consensus science, you know something is wrong. So, for instance, you know, this was in the
Soviet Union with (agronomist Trofim - HS) Lysenko. Yes, there was a consensus in favor of his view of evolution, because if you
disagreed, you went to the GULAG. It's a powerful argument?!
Today, it's equally true if you're teaching. If you're not part of the consensus, you don't get paid. It's better than the GULAG,
but, you know... .
You can watch the video version of the interview here.
https://www.freedom-research.org/p/exclusive-professor-richard-lindzen
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