From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: When Liberals Are Too Chicken Shit To Look Upon Answers To Their Questions, It Means They Know What Was Posted Was Correct
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:11:50 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 09:44:29 -0700, Lou Bricano says...
> > Except you're still dodging the point that there's a difference between
> > successfully making a forecast and passing that information over to those who
> > make sure that the appropriate authorities are contacted in a timely fashion for
> > subsequent action.
>
> The problem wasn't the forecasts. The problem was Republiscum/QAnon county
> officials not having a system in place to make use of the forecasts and to issue
> flood warnings.
Flood warnings were issued THREE hours in advance of ANY reports of flooding, you fucking idiot.
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The weather service ISSUED A SERIES OF TIMELY ALERTS: a flood watch early in the afternoon on July 3, a flash flood warning at 1:14
a.m. July 4, and a flash flood emergency at 4:03 a.m. July 4, BEFORE ANY IN-PERSON REPORTS OF FLOODING HAD BEEN RECEIVED.
Although Trump's cuts did affect staffing at the two weather service offices in charge of the affected area, AN AGENCY SPOKESPERSON
TOLD US VIA EMAIL THAT BOTH OFFICES WERE *****FULLY STAFFED***** AT THE TIME OF THE FLOODS.
At 4:03 a.m, the warning was upgraded to the most serious alert, an emergency - a life-threatening situation issued when, as
Austin/San Antonio weather service meteorologist Bob Fogarty told The Texas Tribune, "someone has told us we need to get people out
of here immediately or people are going to die."
CeI told us that for flash floods, the National Weather Service is generally able to give residents "3 hours or more of what we
call 'lead time', which is the time in between the warning being issued and the event occurring." In this case, that lead time on
the initial warning was about accurate. The warning was issued at 1:14, and Cei said the first reports of flooding happened at 4:35
a.m., after the upgrade to an emergency.
In other words, THE FORECASTING WASN'T THE PROBLEM.
It was the rain.
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The NWS office in Austin/San Antonio issued a flood watch for Kerr County 12 HOURS in advance, then issued a flash flood warning
some three hours before the Guadalupe River began to flood. You have no clue what you're talking about.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvNnveUXoAAYIQ_?format=png&name=900x900
This tragedy occurred in a location that has among the greatest risks in the nation of flash flooding, WHERE KIDS IN SUMMER CAMPS
HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN SWEPT AWAY TO THEIR DEATHS, and where warning systems are NOT IN PLACE.
The flood took place in a region of Texas that has long been called, "FLASH FLOOD ALLEY, " and is pictured in the image above from
a 2022 article by Accuweather.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y8gb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-
media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8101809e-3f3c-46bd-b52d-8437f0a5c9d5_632x355.png
The flooding was certainly extreme but it should not have been historically unexpected. The documented record of extreme flooding
in "flash flood alley" goes back several centuries, with paleoclimatology records extending that record thousands of years into the
past.
According to a contemporaneous 1846 account, cited in a fantastic 2006 PhD dissertation on flooding in Texas by William Keith
Guthrie, at the University of Kansas:
The Guadalupe would often rise fifteen feet above its normal stand after these heavy rains, carrying with it in its swift torrent a
number of large trees, uprooted farther up the hills. Smaller brooks, ordinarily not containing flowing water, became raging
torrents which could be crossed only by swimming.
Newsweek this week recalled an eerily similar event involving summer campers from 1987:
The disaster echoes aspects of a 1987 flood that killed 10 campers at a nearby Christian camp, local meteorologist Cary Burgess
told Newsweek on Sunday via email...
She noted that, while flooding like this 'doesn't happen often, " large scale ones "have occurred at least four times in the last
50 years."
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TX Hill Country
@TX_Hill_Country
10h
The flash flood warning didn't come until much later.
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Bullshit.
The warning came 3 hours BEFORE the flood.
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A watch means that conditions are favorable. The point is that it did not occur without any advance notice.
An emphatic no! The watch was issued 12 hours before the event. (the warning 3 hours before)
The NWS grossly underestimated the moisture in this storm. It continued north and flooded Burnet and Leander 24 hrs later.
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A flood watch was issued hours before that.
URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
Flood Watch
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
118 PM CDT Thu Jul 3 2025
TXZ183>187-202>204-041200-
/O.NEW.KEWX.FA.A.0003.250703T1818Z-250704T1200Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Val Verde-Edwards-Real-Kerr-Bandera-Kinney-Uvalde-Medina-
Including the cities of Del Rio, Leakey, Brackettville,
Kerrville, Bandera, Hondo, Uvalde, and Rocksprings
118 PM CDT Thu Jul 3 2025
... FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING...
* WHAT... Locally heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding across
portions of South Central Texas. Rainfall amounts of 1 to 3 inches
with isolated amounts of 5 to 7 inches are possible.
* WHERE... A portion of south central Texas, including the following
counties, Bandera, Edwards, Kerr, Kinney, Medina, Real, Uvalde and
Val Verde.
* WHEN... Through Friday morning.
* IMPACTS... Excessive runoff may result in flooding of rivers,
creeks, streams, and other low-lying and flood-prone locations.
Creeks and streams may rise out of their banks.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...
- A moist tropical airmass combined with a slow moving storm
system will bring rounds of scattered to widespread showers
and storms with heavy rain rates possible.
- http://weather.gov/safety/flood
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
You should monitor later forecasts and be alert for possible Flood
Warnings. Those living in areas prone to flooding should be prepared
to take action should flooding develop.
============================================================================
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