From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: LOL... I Snoutsmack Lakehouse Rich Boy, And All He Can Muster Is Playing His Pedantic Liberal Bullshit Word Games - Board of Scientific Counselors, Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC), Science Advisory Board (SAB)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:29 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 16:22:00 -0700, Alan says...
> So what OTHER research entities does the EPA have?
"Have" or use?
I don't know... so tell us.
> You claim they have others ("but not the only one" of "THEIR" entities).
LOL... more word games.
What part of "external research entities" do you not understand, moron?
Just had to latch onto the word "their", because you lost the discussion. You know exactly what other "scientific research"
entities they "have" at THEIR disposal and use.
Soooo...
PLONK!
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Here are OTHER scientific research "arms" The EPA uses. (maybe I'll cut you a break and call them "hands" instead... LOL)
In addition to its own internal research, the EPA also engages with and relies on INDEPENDENT EXTERNAL SCIENCE ADVISORY
ORGANIZATIONS to provide review and advice on its SCIENTIFIC WORK and proposed regulations. These include:
Board of Scientific Counselors, Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC), Science Advisory Board (SAB)
(keep reading for more)
> Note the word: "the".
Yes, THEIR "the", but that does not include EXTERNAL RESEARCH ENTITIES, that CAN be considered "arms".
> Not "a".
It IS "a", because they use external research entities, also.
Board of Scientific Counselors
Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC)
Science Advisory Board (SAB)
(keep reading for more)
> Not "one of the scientific research arms".
Well, it IS one, not THE.
Board of Scientific Counselors
Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC)
Science Advisory Board (SAB)
(keep reading for more)
> "THE scientific research arm"
>
> So now the balls in your court.
Why do you faggots always use homosexual analogies in your replies?
> You are trying to claim there could be others?
Jes... but I'm not "trying".
Einstein von Brainstorm is succeeding.
> Show some EVIDENCE of it.
In addition to its own internal research, the EPA also engages with and relies on independent external science advisory
organizations to provide review and advice on its scientific work and proposed regulations. These include:
Board of Scientific Counselors
Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC)
Science Advisory Board (SAB)
While the EPA conducts its own research, IT ALSO FUNDS EXTERNAL RESEARCH through GRANTS TO UNIVERSITIES, PRIVATE COMPANIES, AND
OTHER RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS. The EXACT NUMBER OF PRIVATE RESEARCH COMPANIES that receive contracts or grants specifically for
research that directly informs EPA laws and rules IS NOT A FIXED NUMBER and can vary based on specific projects, funding cycles,
and emerging research needs. THE EPA OFTEN ISSUES REQUESTS for proposals (RFPs) for specific RESEARCH TOPICS, and various entities,
including private companies, can bid on these.
Therefore, it's NOT A MATTER OF A FIXED NUMBER OF "RESEARCH COMPANIES" THAT ALWAYS PROVIDE THE SCIENCE. The EPA's main scientific
foundation comes from its own vast internal research capabilities within ORD, SUPPLEMENTED BY EXTERNAL PEER REVIEW BODIES and, at
times, specific contracted or granted RESEARCH FROM VARIOUS EXTERNAL ENTITIES, WHICH CAN INCLUDE PRIVATE COMPANIES.
Private ALWAYS does it better AND cheaper, with MUCH less waste.
Maybe it's a good thing. An EPA Administrator thinks so.
"Under President Trump's leadership, EPA has taken a close look at our operations to ensure the agency is BETTER EQUIPPED THAN EVER
to deliver on our core mission of protecting human health and the environment while Powering the Great American Comeback," EPA
Administrator Lee Zeldin said in a statement Friday. "This reduction in force will ensure WE CAN BETTER FULFILL THAT MISSION while
being responsible stewards of your hard-earned tax dollars."
It was ANTICIPATED THAT ORD WOULD BE IMPACTED, according to earlier documents that outlined the agency's RIF plans. Back in March,
the documents indicated that somewhere between 50% to 75% of ORD employees would not be retained, the majority of them leading
scientists in their field of research.
This was announced in March, and NOW you fuckers wanna whine about it?
Tough titty, said the kitty... but the milk's still sweet.