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From: pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: "Bat poop crazy"
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 00:01:19 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Muffler Bearings LLC

On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-07-29 15:39, pothead wrote:
>> On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-07-29 15:17, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-07-29 14:18, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-07-29, Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-29 10:48, Ken wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 14:32, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 13:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for farmers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's better than spending the money on programs for countries
>>>>>>>>>>> who hate us and want us dead.
>>>>>>>>>> Which countries are those? It's not actually a long list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does not matter if it is a long list or short list.  This country
>>>>>>>>> is in debt to the tune of 36 Trillion dollars.  Not a dime should be
>>>>>>>>> sent to someone who is not a friend.  Do you donate to organizations
>>>>>>>>> that you dislike??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you don't mind that Trump's tax cuts for the rich are running up
>>>>>>>> that debt, so your complaint comes out a little bit bullshit, doesn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So just because someone receives funds that you disagree with, other
>>>>>>> wasted funds should continue??  Do you handle your personal finances
>>>>>>> that way??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will close with this:  Everyday the polls show the liberal criticism
>>>>>>> of Trump to be believed even less.  Those of you with TDS should more
>>>>>>> carefully choose your issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good post.
>>>>>> I still haven't seen this so called tax benefits for the rich data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't consider no taxes on tips, overtime and additional bonus added
>>>>>> for seniors on SS increased SALT deduction. something the rich are interested in.
>>>>>
>>>>> ChatGPT: 'Did Trump really eliminate taxes on tips?'
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Final Take: Did Trump “Eliminate Taxes on Tips”?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not entirely. What changed was:
>>>>>
>>>>> A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in
>>>>> cash tip income.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still subject to payroll and other taxes, with income-based phase‑outs
>>>>> and an expiration in 2028.'
>>>>>
>>>>> So it isn't "no taxes on tips".
>>>>>
>>>>> ChatGPT: 'Did Trump eliminate tax on overtime?'
>>>>>
>>>> ChatGPT?
>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>
>>>> You lose.
>>> You get that you get the sources when you do that kind of search, right?
>>>
>>> Let me demonstrate:
>>>
>>> 'A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in
>>> cash tip income.'
>>>
>>> How's the IRS for a source?
>>>
>>> 'Maximum annual deduction is $25,000'
>>>
>>> <https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/one-big-beautiful-bill-act-tax-deductions-for-working-americans-and-seniors>
>>>
>>> Good enough?
>> 
>> $25k in tips is a lot of money.
>> So......
>> 
>> Nope.
>> There are so many factors involved.
>> Single vs married vs head of house, medical issues, SALT and a gazillion more.
>
> So having implied that the results from ChatGPT were wrong, you now 
> shift the goalposts.

No.
I'm saying that a simple prompt like you created does not tell the entire
story.
It's far too complex.

>> 
>> While you can get cold facts from AI you cannot, at least not without extensive
>> specific prompts, get a true picture of something like how the tax code
>> affects different levels.
>> 
>> Try this.
>> 
>> https://www.bigbeautifulbilltaxcalculator.com/
>> At my income level I would get an almost $6k increase in taxes if the BBB did not pass.
> And why would that be?
>
> If it didn't pass then surely your taxes would remain the same, wouldn't 
> they?

Nope.
Not even close.
That's the point of the calculator I posted.


-- 
pothead

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 Then our choices make us."
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