From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Lay Your Hands on an ICE Officer After Filming ICE LEGALLY
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:55:22 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 7/31/25 15:43, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-07-31 08:59, pothead wrote:
>> On 2025-07-31, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/30/25 10:41, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:07:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:01:28 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against
>>>>>>>>> immigrants or
>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Illegals yes.
>>>>>>>> Come back legally next time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Illegals are covered under the 14th amendment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an invasion we are dealing with and I prefer to protect the
>>>>>> legal citizens of the US over criminals who jumped the border.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/07/28/200-illegal-alien-
>>>>>> child-sex-offenders-arrested-in-houston-in-six-months/>
>>>>>
>>>>> All I'm insisting on is due process being followed. Arbitrary arrest
>>>>> and deportation are illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Period.
>>>>
>>>> All I am insisting on is to enter the country legally and apply
>>>> legally for citizenship.
>>>
>>> Many have ... and CBP is grabbing them while they're still undergoing
>>> those due process legal processes. Is this acceptable to you?
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> It depends.
Not according to the 14th Amendment, it doesn't.
>> Does the person in question have some kind of criminal background?
>> If not, let the hearing already in progress proceed.
>> If yes, back to the country of origin.
>
> So once again: "some kind of criminal background"?
>
> What do you mean by that?
The whistle that they're making is that all improper border crossings
are 'illegal' and therefore nothing less than 'criminal', thereby giving
them their belief that they can ignore the Constitutional mandates for
due process for all.
>> That being said, this may come as a surprise to you but I voted for Trump
>> based upon him closing the border which he effectively has done and
>> deporting
>> illegals starting with the dangerous ones first which AFAIK he is doing
>> however there are too many casualties of war, IOW families, hard working
>> people with no criminal history and such being caught up in the raids.
>
> Almost like you were lied to...
Repeatedly, and they still don't want to believe that that's possible.
>> I do not support that which is why my opinion has always been that the
>> DACA
>> people who stayed out of trouble, not leeching on the system, should
>> be granted
>> citizenship first.
>>
>> I realize that we need a level set which requires drastic actions,
>> however I don't support the current methods 100%.
Because 99% support is in effect not really any different. /s
-hh