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On 2025-07-29 17:21, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-07-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-07-29 17:01, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-29 15:39, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-07-29 15:17, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-07-29, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-29 14:18, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-29, Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-29 10:48, Ken wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 14:32, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 13:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-07-28, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for farmers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's better than spending the money on programs for countries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who hate us and want us dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which countries are those? It's not actually a long list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It does not matter if it is a long list or short list.  This country
>>>>>>>>>>>> is in debt to the tune of 36 Trillion dollars.  Not a dime should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to someone who is not a friend.  Do you donate to organizations
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you dislike??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you don't mind that Trump's tax cuts for the rich are running up
>>>>>>>>>>> that debt, so your complaint comes out a little bit bullshit, doesn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So just because someone receives funds that you disagree with, other
>>>>>>>>>> wasted funds should continue??  Do you handle your personal finances
>>>>>>>>>> that way??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will close with this:  Everyday the polls show the liberal criticism
>>>>>>>>>> of Trump to be believed even less.  Those of you with TDS should more
>>>>>>>>>> carefully choose your issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good post.
>>>>>>>>> I still haven't seen this so called tax benefits for the rich data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't consider no taxes on tips, overtime and additional bonus added
>>>>>>>>> for seniors on SS increased SALT deduction. something the rich are interested in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ChatGPT: 'Did Trump really eliminate taxes on tips?'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Final Take: Did Trump “Eliminate Taxes on Tips”?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not entirely. What changed was:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in
>>>>>>>> cash tip income.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still subject to payroll and other taxes, with income-based phase‑outs
>>>>>>>> and an expiration in 2028.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it isn't "no taxes on tips".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ChatGPT: 'Did Trump eliminate tax on overtime?'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ChatGPT?
>>>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You lose.
>>>>>> You get that you get the sources when you do that kind of search, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me demonstrate:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in
>>>>>> cash tip income.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How's the IRS for a source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Maximum annual deduction is $25,000'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/one-big-beautiful-bill-act-tax-deductions-for-working-americans-and-seniors>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good enough?
>>>>>
>>>>> $25k in tips is a lot of money.
>>>>> So......
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>> There are so many factors involved.
>>>>> Single vs married vs head of house, medical issues, SALT and a gazillion more.
>>>>
>>>> So having implied that the results from ChatGPT were wrong, you now
>>>> shift the goalposts.
>>>
>>> No.
>>> I'm saying that a simple prompt like you created does not tell the entire
>>> story.
>>> It's far too complex.
>>
>> And I'm asking you in what particulars was the answer that it provided
>> inaccurate.
>>
>> And you're running away just as fast as you can.
> 
> Why do you make up lies?

1. Do you know what "tautology" means.

2. What "lies"?

> You are implying that the deductions the Trump bill has instituted are
> somehow not good and along with the other libbys claiming that Trump's BBB
> benefits the rich and not the middle class.

No. I'm outright saying that your claim:

"no taxes on tips"

...is demonstrably false.

As is your claim about "no taxes on overtime".

I didn't address every single piece of what you wrote and that is clear 
both by what I wrote, AND the way you first tried to refute me.


> 
> Your prompt while simplistic does not show the entire picture and while
> your specific prompt may be true it doesn't represent all of the variables.

If my specific prompt is true (as you just admitted), then you're also 
admitting that your claims about no taxes on tips and overtime are false.

> 
> It's like asking Chatgpt  how much federal taxes will I pay if I
> make $200k a year.
> It doesn't take into account deductions etc.
> So while it may be accurate basically, in real life it's not.
Goalpost shift!