From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: The Daily Beast falls flat on its face...again
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2025 07:05:00 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 14:53:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-08-04 04:08, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:41:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-08-03 06:18, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 17:38:41 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-08-02 10:58, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, The Daily Beast removed an article from its website that
>>>>>> highlighted claims that President Donald Trump met first lady Melania
>>>>>> Trump through Jeffrey Epstein. These claims came from Trump biographer
>>>>>> Michael Wolff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This editors note was posted on The Daily Beasts site: Editors
>>>>>> Note. After this story was published, The Beast received a letter from
>>>>>> First Lady Melania Trumps attorney challenging the headline and
>>>>>> framing of the article. After reviewing the matter, the Beast has
>>>>>> taken down the article and apologizes for any confusion or
>>>>>> misunderstanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wolffs original claims were made during an episode of The Daily
>>>>>> Beast Podcast, which aired six days ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TheWraps Benjamin Lindsay wrote, In the podcast interview with
>>>>>> Joanna Coles, published Saturday, Wolff alleges that Donald and
>>>>>> Melania met in 1998 through ID Models founder Paolo Zampolli, who
>>>>>> himself had ties to Epstein and his partner Ghislaine Maxwell. He said
>>>>>> that Melania was very involved in Epsteins social circle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A spokesperson for The Daily Beast told media journalist Oliver Darcy,
>>>>>> The story was deleted because it did not reflect the comments made by
>>>>>> Michael Wolff and Joanna Coles on the Daily Beast podcast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2025/the-daily-beast-retracts-melania-epstein-story/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Translation: They got caught flat out lying.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does Fox do when they get caught lying?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do try to stick to the topic.
>>>
>>> I'm making a comparison...
>>>
>>> ...just the same way you like to do.
>>>
>>
>> Ok what stories did Fox News put out that quoted people as saying
>> things that were never said?
>
>So it has to be the exact same thing. You don't think lying about the
>election being stolen counts?
I asked a very specific question. Can't you answer a simple question
without wandering around.
>
>Sean Hannity testified that he did not believe the fraud claims "for one
>second," even as he gave a platform to accusers to repeat them on his show.'
>
>'Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham were shown in text messages to be
>highly critical of the claims and the people making them, privately
>calling them "mind-blowingly nuts."'
>
>But directly on point:
>
>'On Friday evening, Fox News withdrew a story it had published in which
>former Trump administration Health and Human Services Secretary Tom
>Price was quoted as saying he would not support the former president in
>2024.
>
>He can kiss my big medical butt, the story said Price had remarked.
>
>However, the story was taken down and instead replaced with an editors
>note.'
>
>Also:
>
>'Mr Wheeler said a Fox News reporter, Malia Zimmerman, fabricated quotes
>in a story about Mr Rich that ran on the networks website in May. Fox
>retracted the article a week after publication.'
>
>'On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the
>investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich. The article
>was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we
>require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was
>found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.'
>
>So... ...was Fox News caught "flat out lying"?
>
>Yes or no.
Would you be so kind as to source your quote? It's standard good form
to do so. What you posted sounds suspiciously like a hearsay claim so
I'd like more information.
>
>>
>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the fact that they were wiling to own up and apologize when they
>>>>> made a MISTAKE is the reason YOUR source says:
>>>>
>>>> How is it a mistake to publish something that was never said as fact?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The Daily Beast is a superb site'
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Laughter!
>>>
>>> It's YOUR SOURCE sunshine.
>>
>> Actually it wasn't but I understand your confusion.
>>
>> Laughter...
>
>Actually it was. That is a direct quote from the poynter.org article you
>posted:
Poynter is my source.
Duh...
>
>'The Daily Beast is a superb site, but it got beat up in media circles
>for highlighting claims made by Wolff.'
You seem to have difficulty with mental math.