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From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: The Daily Beast falls flat on its face...again
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2025 06:59:23 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On Tue, 05 Aug 2025 07:05:00 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 14:53:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-08-04 04:08, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:41:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2025-08-03 06:18, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 17:38:41 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-08-02 10:58, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, The Daily Beast removed an article from its website that
>>>>>>> highlighted claims that President Donald Trump met first lady Melania
>>>>>>> Trump through Jeffrey Epstein. These claims came from Trump biographer
>>>>>>> Michael Wolff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This editor’s note was posted on The Daily Beast’s site: “Editor’s
>>>>>>> Note. After this story was published, The Beast received a letter from
>>>>>>> First Lady Melania Trump’s attorney challenging the headline and
>>>>>>> framing of the article. After reviewing the matter, the Beast has
>>>>>>> taken down the article and apologizes for any confusion or
>>>>>>> misunderstanding.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wolff’s original claims were made during an episode of “The Daily
>>>>>>> Beast Podcast,” which aired six days ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TheWrap’s Benjamin Lindsay wrote, “In the podcast interview with
>>>>>>> Joanna Coles, published Saturday, Wolff alleges that Donald and
>>>>>>> Melania met in 1998 through ID Models founder Paolo Zampolli, who
>>>>>>> himself had ties to Epstein and his partner Ghislaine Maxwell. He said
>>>>>>> that Melania was ‘very involved’ in Epstein’s social circle.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A spokesperson for The Daily Beast told media journalist Oliver Darcy,
>>>>>>> “The story was deleted because it did not reflect the comments made by
>>>>>>> Michael Wolff and Joanna Coles on the Daily Beast podcast.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 				
>>>>>>> https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2025/the-daily-beast-retracts-melania-epstein-story/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Translation:  They got caught flat out lying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does Fox do when they get caught lying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do try to stick to the topic.
>>>>
>>>> I'm making a comparison...
>>>>
>>>> ...just the same way you like to do.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Ok what stories did  Fox News put out that quoted people as saying
>>> things that were never said?
>>
>>So it has to be the exact same thing. You don't think lying about the 
>>election being stolen counts?
>
>I asked a very specific question.  Can't you answer a simple question
>without wandering around.
>
>>
>>Sean Hannity testified that he did not believe the fraud claims "for one 
>>second," even as he gave a platform to accusers to repeat them on his show.'
>>
>>'Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham were shown in text messages to be 
>>highly critical of the claims and the people making them, privately 
>>calling them "mind-blowingly nuts."'
>>
>>But directly on point:
>>
>>'On Friday evening, Fox News withdrew a story it had published in which 
>>former Trump administration Health and Human Services Secretary Tom 
>>Price was quoted as saying he would not support the former president in 
>>2024.
>>
>>“He can kiss my big medical butt,” the story said Price had remarked.
>>
>>However, the story was taken down and instead replaced with an editor’s 
>>note.'
>>
>>Also:
>>
>>'Mr Wheeler said a Fox News reporter, Malia Zimmerman, fabricated quotes 
>>in a story about Mr Rich that ran on the network’s website in May. Fox 
>>retracted the article a week after publication.'
>>
>>'On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the 
>>investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich. The article 
>>was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we 
>>require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was 
>>found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.'
>>
>>So... ...was Fox News caught "flat out lying"?
>>
>>Yes or no.
>
>Would you be so kind as to source your quote?  It's standard good form
>to do so.  What you posted sounds suspiciously like a hearsay claim so
>I'd like more information.
>
>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe the fact that they were wiling to own up and apologize when they
>>>>>> made a MISTAKE is the reason YOUR source says:
>>>>>
>>>>> How is it a mistake to publish something that was never said as fact?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The Daily Beast is a superb site'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>
>>>> It's YOUR SOURCE sunshine.
>>> 
>>> Actually it wasn't but I understand your confusion.
>>> 
>>> Laughter...
>>
>>Actually it was. That is a direct quote from the poynter.org article you 
>>posted:
>
>Poynter is my source.
>
>Duh...
>
>>
>>'The Daily Beast is a superb site, but it got beat up in media circles 
>>for highlighting claims made by Wolff.'
>
>You seem to have difficulty with mental math.

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