From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: President Trump Right Again - WindMILLS Are A Train Wreck
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:59:55 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 13:47:48 -0700, Alan says...
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> On 2025-08-11 13:31, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:56:06 -0700, Alan says...
> >
> >> The levelized cost
> >
> > LOL
> So you have no rebuttal at all.
>
> Got it.
No rebuttal needed.
YOU changing the terms is a self-rebuttal.
Coal was cheaper and it would STILL be cheaper if Obama hadn't set rules, laws, regulations and policies to "bankrupt" coal.
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> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 01:42:06 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
> >
> >>When coal fails
> >
> > Coal only "failed", because Obama had rules and laws made to put coal out of business.
> >
> > If he hadn't ever done that, coal would STILL be the cheapest.
> What laws?
EPA's?
Why didn't you ask, "What rules?" Because there might not have been "laws" per se, but there were policies, regulations and rules
put in place, that are JUST as "powerful" as laws, so quit being a fucking faggot with your bullshit liberal semantics games.
The feeling of superiority you get is fleeting, at best, because I know how to counter your faggotty bullshit, so just stop
focusing on the ONE word that makes you think you can "win" the argument. You make yourself look really stupid, ESPECIALLY after I
counter it with things like those listed below.
Oh... and sorry for leaving out "regulations" and "policies" and every other word you didn't play your stupid lakehouse rich boy
semantics game with.
Do I need to post words like "laws" and then list every synonym FOR those words, so you don't play your faggotty semantics games?
Not gonna happen.
If I say rules and laws, THAT covers the gambit of words LIKE those. But nooooo... pedantic pussy rich boy just HAD to latch onto
the word "law", because he tried and tried and tried to look up to see if there WERE any laws Obama had put in place and couldn't
find any, but DID find PLENTY of "rules".
LOL
Coal only "failed", because Obama had rules and laws and regulations and policies made up to put coal out of business.
Don't bother cherry-picking "laws" out again... we're so over that already.
If your ONLY argument is that Obama didn't have "laws" passed to make coal more expensive, then...
PLONK!
;-)
Admit that I listed "rules" and we'll go from there, otherwise...
PLONK!
Oh... and YOU'LL be the one running away, because I PROVED myself correct.
> Give examples.
YOU can look them up as easily as I did.
Keywords: Obama, RULES, EPA
I went ahead and listed the articles speaking of and probably listing the rules, regulations and policies of Obama, just to make
you look even stupider.
Can't wait till you rationalize your loss, or completely ignore what's listed below, to make yu feel better about losing to a big
dumb jock.
LOL
Pay attention to capped words.
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NEW EPA RULES Show Obama's No Longer Hiding War On Coal | TIME
https://time.com/2806697/obama-epa-coal-carbon/
For five years, the coal industry and its fossil-fueled allies in the Republican Party have accused the Obama Administration of
waging a war on coal. They claim the administration's new plan to ...
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Obama's Campaign Against Coal - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/obamas-campaign-against-coal-081047
Sep 12,2012 - During President Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, he declared one of HIS ENERGY GOALS WAS TO "BANKRUPT"
THE COAL INDUSTRY BY MAKING ELECTRICITY PRICES "SKYROCKET." That policy ...
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Ohio Coal Industry Says OBAMA PROMISED TO BANKRUPT COAL-FIRED POWER ...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/mar/14/ohio-coal-association/ohio-coal-industry-says-obama-promised-bankrupt-co/
Says that President Obama said in 2008 that his proposed greenhouse gas REGULATIONS "will bankrupt" anyone who wants to build a new
coal-fired power plant.
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Fact Check: Hillary Clinton And Coal Jobs - NPR
https://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/476485650/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-coal-jobs
May 3,2016 - THE LONG ANSWER: A lot of coal miners and coal companies are going out of business. This is partly the result of
Obama Administration policies designed to combat climate change, by shifting power ...
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EPA Guts Obama RULE ON COAL POWER PLANTS | PBS News
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/epa-expected-to-gut-obama-rule-on-coal-power-plants
THE OBAMA RULE, ADOPTED IN 2015, SOUGHT TO RESHAPE THE COUNTRY'S POWER SYSTEM BY ENCOURAGING UTILITIES TO RELY LESS ON DIRTIER-
BURNING COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS AND MORE ON ELECTRICITY FROM ...
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Obama's WAR ON COAL - Senate
https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/obamas-war-on-coal
In January 2008, then-presidential candidate Obama said coal-fired power plants would go "bankrupt" and "ELECTRICITY RATES WOULD
NECESSARILY SKYROCKET" under his plan to tax greenhouse gas emissions through a cap-and-trade system. After Congress rejected that
policy, President OBAMA DEFIANTLY ANNOUNCED THERE WERE OTHER WAYS OF "SKINNING THE CAT." His administration bypassed ...
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How Obama Went From Coal's Top Cheerleader To Its No. 1 Enemy
https://grist.org/climate-energy/how-obama-went-from-coals-top-cheerleader-to-its-no-1-enemy/
How Obama went from coal's top cheerleader to its No. 1 enemy The coal industry used to see the president as an ally. Those days
are long gone.
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Will Obama Put Coal Out Of Business? - Chron
https://www.chron.com/business/fool/article/will-obama-put-coal-out-of-business-4423217.php
In 2008, candidate Barack Obama infamously said that as president he would SET POLICY THAT WOULD BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY: "So if
somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's ...
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