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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Oops! - President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:12:59 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-08-08 18:56, AlleyCat wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:22:14 -0700,  Alan says...
> 
>> 
>> On 2025-08-07 09:41, AlleyCat wrote:
>>> 
>>> President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to 
>>> immediately...
> 
>> ...break the law.
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Q: Who controls the census and who can change the way it's taken?
> 
> The PRESIDENT and Department of Commerce: THE PRESIDENT, through the
> Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and CAN ISSUE
> EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
> 
> =====
> 
> The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution and is controlled by
> several branches of the federal government, each with a different
> level of authority.
> 
> Who Controls the Census
> 
> The U.S. Census Bureau, a federal agency within the Department of
> Commerce, is the entity responsible for conducting the census. The
> Director of the Census Bureau is nominated by the President and
> confirmed by the Senate.
> 
> Who Can Change the Way It's Taken
> 
> The authority to change the census process is distributed among the
> legislative, executive, and judicial branches:
> 
> Congress: According to the Constitution, Congress has the primary
> authority to direct the manner in which the census is taken. 
> Congress passes the laws (Title 13 of the U.S. Code) that govern the
> census, including its funding, and can add or remove questions.
> 
> The President and Department of Commerce: The President, through the
> Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and can issue
> executive orders. However, these actions are often challenged and
> are subject to the laws passed by Congress and rulings by the
> courts.
> 
> The U.S. Supreme Court: The Supreme Court has the power to rule on
> the legality of census-related policies and questions. For example,
> the Court has blocked attempts to add certain questions to the
> census when it found the rationale for the addition to be 
> insufficient.
> 
> In summary, while the Census Bureau manages the day-to-day
> operations, Congress holds the ultimate legal authority to change
> the census process, with significant checks and balances FROM THE
> PRESIDENT and the Supreme Court.
> 
> WHEN are you going to stop sucking at this, lakehouse rich boy?
No source?

What a shock.

But even what you've quoted says:

"The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution"

and

"In summary, while the Census Bureau manages the day-to-day operations, 
Congress holds the ultimate legal authority to change the census process"

And straight from the Constitution:

'Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several 
States which may be included within this Union, according to their 
respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole 
Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of 
Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.'

Now the part about "three fifths" has been rendered moot by the fact 
that there are no longer any people "other" than "free Persons" (as much 
as a bigot such as yourself might want to bring slavery back)...

...but regardless of whether you like it or not, everyone in the US is a 
"free Person" and must be counted.

Trump has no power to declare that illegal immigrants won't be counted.

This is pure political gerrymandering.