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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Dork Thinks Biden's Immigration Wasn't a Negative Sum Game
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 12:13:30 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:17:04 -0700,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2025-08-12 07:59, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700,  Alan says...
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600,  Gronk says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
> >>>>>>>>>> the US over the last fiscal year
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> vs.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cite for that figure?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
> >>>>>>> million.  Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
> >>>>>>> probably not too far off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you have something different to offer?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How about your own source:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
> >>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
> >>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other
> >>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oops.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clearly you misunderstood what I said.  The information shows a trend
> >>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings.  As to what happened
> >>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
> >>>>> deportation number actually was.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.
> >>>
> >>> You may "explain" it to me.
> >>>
> >>> This should be good....
> >>
> >> They do mention what the deportation number actually is.
> >>
> >> Hint: pie chart.
> > 
> > Who CARES?
> > 
> > It wasn't anywhere NEAR those who had made it in and stayed,
> And then... ...reality:
> 
> 'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP

Update your numbers, disingenuous faggot.

And this is only to Sept. 30.

The claim is misleading. According to to CBP's Nationwide Encounter data, a total of 1,956,519 nationwide encounters occurred 
during FY 2021. Similarly, the same data shows a total of 2,766,582 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2022, while a total of 
3,201,144 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2023. A total of 2,756,646 encounters have occurred during FY 2024 to date. The 
CBP website indicates nationwide encounter data includes Title 8 Apprehensions, Office of Field Operations (OFO) Title 8 
Inadmissibles, and Title 42 Expulsions for FY 2020 to FY 2023. Demographics included in the data represent accompanied minors, 
individuals in a family unit, single adults, and unaccompanied children/single minors.

1,956,519
2,766,582
3,201,144
2,756,646
_________

10,680,891

Again... that's only to Sept.

Extrapolate another 3+ months in there, and?

ELEVEN MILLION.

Check Your Fact added the total number of nationwide encounters representing FY 2021 to FY 2024 to date and arrived at 10,680,891. 
Back in May 2024, the Republican-led House Committee on Homeland Security issued a press release stating the Biden-Harris 
administration was "on track" to reach 10 million nationwide encounters "well before the end of the fiscal year" on September 30.

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