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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Oops! - President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to immediately begin work and conduct...
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 12:13:33 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:12:59 -0700,  Alan says...  

> On 2025-08-08 18:56, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:22:14 -0700,  Alan says...
> > 
> >> 
> >> On 2025-08-07 09:41, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to 
> >>> immediately...
> > 
> >> ...break the law.
> > 
> > Nope.
> > 
> > Q: Who controls the census and who can change the way it's taken?
> > 
> > The PRESIDENT and Department of Commerce: THE PRESIDENT, through the
> > Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and CAN ISSUE
> > EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
> > 
> > =====
> > 
> > The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution and is controlled by
> > several branches of the federal government, each with a different
> > level of authority.
> > 
> > Who Controls the Census
> > 
> > The U.S. Census Bureau, a federal agency within the Department of
> > Commerce, is the entity responsible for conducting the census. The
> > Director of the Census Bureau is nominated by the President and
> > confirmed by the Senate.
> > 
> > Who Can Change the Way It's Taken
> > 
> > The authority to change the census process is distributed among the
> > legislative, executive, and judicial branches:
> > 
> > Congress: According to the Constitution, Congress has the primary
> > authority to direct the manner in which the census is taken. 
> > Congress passes the laws (Title 13 of the U.S. Code) that govern the
> > census, including its funding, and can add or remove questions.
> > 
> > The President and Department of Commerce: The President, through the
> > Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and can issue
> > executive orders. However, these actions are often challenged and
> > are subject to the laws passed by Congress and rulings by the
> > courts.
> > 
> > The U.S. Supreme Court: The Supreme Court has the power to rule on
> > the legality of census-related policies and questions. For example,
> > the Court has blocked attempts to add certain questions to the
> > census when it found the rationale for the addition to be 
> > insufficient.
> > 
> > In summary, while the Census Bureau manages the day-to-day
> > operations, Congress holds the ultimate legal authority to change
> > the census process, with significant checks and balances FROM THE
> > PRESIDENT and the Supreme Court.
> > 
> > WHEN are you going to stop sucking at this, lakehouse rich boy?

> No source?

You think I wrote that? I'm flattered. 

Is it wrong?

Then shut the fuck up lakehouse rich feminist.
 
> But even what you've quoted says:
> 
> "The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution"

And that does NOT mean they're the only ones who can "change" it.

So, if that part is correct, PROVE the others wrong, instead of whining about there not being a cite.

You ALWAYS whine about that which you cannot disprove.

LOL

How come you never bother to ask for a cite, if or when someone is totally wrong? Because you have a good rebuttal. You don't in 
this case, so you whine about there being no cite.

What a hypocritical pussy.

Why do YOU care if WE change our census to NOT include illegals? If, as you say, they cannot vote, they shouldn't be able to 
influence the electorate, which IS a part of our "Democratic Republic" ways, so fuck off and keep cheering your communist leaders.

=====

Q: Who controls the census and who can change the way it's taken?

The PRESIDENT and Department of Commerce: THE PRESIDENT, through the Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and CAN 
ISSUE EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

=====

The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution and is controlled by several branches of the federal government, each with a 
different level of authority.

Who Controls the Census

The U.S. Census Bureau, a federal agency within the Department of Commerce, is the entity responsible for conducting the census. 
The Director of the Census Bureau is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

Who Can Change the Way It's Taken

The authority to change the census process is distributed among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches:

Congress: According to the Constitution, Congress has the primary authority to direct the manner in which the census is taken. 
Congress passes the laws (Title 13 of the U.S. Code) that govern the census, including its funding, and can add or remove 
questions.

The President and Department of Commerce: The President, through the Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and can 
issue executive orders. However, these actions are often challenged and are subject to the laws passed by Congress and rulings by 
the courts.

The U.S. Supreme Court: The Supreme Court has the power to rule on the legality of census-related policies and questions. For 
example, the Court has blocked attempts to add certain questions to the census when it found the rationale for the addition to be 
insufficient.

In summary, while the Census Bureau manages the day-to-day operations, Congress holds the ultimate legal authority to change the 
census process, with significant checks and balances FROM THE PRESIDENT and the Supreme Court.

WHEN are you going to stop sucking at this, lakehouse rich boy?

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