From: pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Dork Thinks Biden's Immigration Wasn't a Negative Sum Game
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 23:13:54 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Muffler Bearings LLC
On 2025-08-12, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:17:04 -0700, Alan says...
>
>>
>> On 2025-08-12 07:59, AlleyCat wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan says...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
>> >>>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
>> >>>>>>>>>> the US over the last fiscal year
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> vs.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Cite for that figure?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
>> >>>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
>> >>>>>>> probably not too far off.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Do you have something different to offer?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How about your own source:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
>> >>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
>> >>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other
>> >>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Oops.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
>> >>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
>> >>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
>> >>>>> deportation number actually was.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.
>> >>>
>> >>> You may "explain" it to me.
>> >>>
>> >>> This should be good....
>> >>
>> >> They do mention what the deportation number actually is.
>> >>
>> >> Hint: pie chart.
>> >
>> > Who CARES?
>> >
>> > It wasn't anywhere NEAR those who had made it in and stayed,
>> And then... ...reality:
>>
>> 'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP
>
> Update your numbers, disingenuous faggot.
>
> And this is only to Sept. 30.
>
> The claim is misleading. According to to CBP's Nationwide Encounter data, a total of 1,956,519 nationwide encounters occurred
> during FY 2021. Similarly, the same data shows a total of 2,766,582 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2022, while a total of
> 3,201,144 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2023. A total of 2,756,646 encounters have occurred during FY 2024 to date. The
> CBP website indicates nationwide encounter data includes Title 8 Apprehensions, Office of Field Operations (OFO) Title 8
> Inadmissibles, and Title 42 Expulsions for FY 2020 to FY 2023. Demographics included in the data represent accompanied minors,
> individuals in a family unit, single adults, and unaccompanied children/single minors.
>
> 1,956,519
> 2,766,582
> 3,201,144
> 2,756,646
> _________
>
> 10,680,891
>
> Again... that's only to Sept.
>
> Extrapolate another 3+ months in there, and?
>
> ELEVEN MILLION.
>
> Check Your Fact added the total number of nationwide encounters representing FY 2021 to FY 2024 to date and arrived at 10,680,891.
> Back in May 2024, the Republican-led House Committee on Homeland Security issued a press release stating the Biden-Harris
> administration was "on track" to reach 10 million nationwide encounters "well before the end of the fiscal year" on September 30.
>
Here are statistics from today august 12, 2025.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/another-record-setting-month-cbp-border-continues-be-most-secure>
"""Another record-setting month at CBP: Border continues to be most secure in history
Release Date Tue, 08/12/2025
Zero illegal aliens released into the country for the third consecutive month
WASHINGTON â U.S. Customs and Border Protection today released finalized operational statistics for July 2025, recording another historic performance across the agencyâs core missions.
âHistory made, again. The numbers donât lieâthis is the most secure the border has ever been. President Donald J. Trump didnât just manage the crisisâhe obliterated it. No more excuses. No more releases. Weâve put the cartels on defense and taken our border back.â âSecretary Kristi Noem
âCBP shut down illegal crossings again this month, setting enforcement records and collecting billions in tariffs. This is what making America great and safe again looks like.â â CBP Commissioner Rodney Scott
Below is a snapshot of Julyâs key figures. Full monthly reporting can be viewed on CBPâs Stats and Summaries webpage.
Border Enforcement at Historic Levels
Illegal crossings in July dropped to the lowest level ever recorded â just a fraction of what they were under the previous administration.
24,628 total encounters nationwide â the lowest monthly total in CBP history for the second consecutive month
6,177 U.S. Border Patrol apprehensions nationwide â 23% lower than the previous record low in June of 8,018, and 90% down from July 2024 with 59,655 illegal aliens
4,601 southwest border apprehensions â 24% lower than the previous record low in June of 6,070, and 92% down from July 2024 with 56,400 illegal aliens
116 apprehensions on July 20 â the lowest single-day total in agency history
Zero parole releases â compared to 12,365 released by the Border Patrol under the Biden Administration along the southwest border in July 2024
Visit for more encounter statistics.
Drug Interdictions That Save Lives
As the largest law enforcement agency in the United States, CBP is uniquely positioned to detect, identify, and seize illicit drugs like fentanyl before they enter our communities. In July, CBP seized 968 pounds of fentanyl, an increase of 30% from June.
Additional breakdown by substance (compared to June):
Heroin seizures surged 86%
Marijuana seizures rose 32%
Additional CBP drug seizure statistics can be found on the Drug Seizure Statistics webpage.
Tariff Enforcement & Economic Security
Holistic border security drives economic security. CBP plays a central role in enforcing U.S. trade law at the border, including the implementation of 25 presidential tariff actions directed by the Trump administration. In July 2025 alone, CBP:
Processed $307 billion in imports
Identified $30.4 billion in duties owed
From January 20 through July 31, CBP has collected:
$140.8 billion from all tariffs, taxes, and fees
Through audits, targeting, and frontline import reviews, CBP is enforcing trade law and safeguarding Americaâs economic sovereignty.
Visit our CBPâs tariff implementation page for more"""
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