From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: So Much Written... So Little Said
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:36:40 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-08-12 20:06, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 17:33:02 -0700, Alan says...
>
>>> If you want to contribute to saving the enviornment why not
>>> speak to the various elite and superstars jetting all over the
>>> place in private jets and super yachts?
>>
>> It's not about saving the environment. This is a situation where
>> an electric vehicle makes more sense than a craft that burns
>> fossil fuels.
>
>> It's a useful vehicle.
>
> But they're useless for mass AIR transit.
I never said they were.
>
> And with a puny range of 100 miles?
Lots of utility in an aircraft that can take off vertically and then fly
up to 100 miles before landing vertically.
>
> LOL
>
> I guarantee you, people will take helicopters long after Joby gets
> certified. It'll remain cheaper for a LONG time, especially if
> Joby's the only game in town.
"long after"? That's a straw man. No one is saying that the first
certified Joby flight means the end of helicopters.
And you have no data at all to claim that helicopters will be cheaper.
>
> How many rooftops will be fitted with chargers?
>
> People will have to take a LAND taxi to get to where Joby operates
> from, and even those taxis will be cheaper for a long time.
People have to take taxis to get to where helicopters operate from...
...and all those places can work for Joby aircraft too.
>
> Helicopters are ubiquitous and plentiful and the infrastructure is
> already there, so I don't see people using Joby or Joby being ready
> to ferry many people for many years. Possibly 10 to 20.
Their service will start in Dubai in 2026 and as you've pointed out,
they acquired Blade Air Mobility for the infrastructure it already has...
...because Blade Air Mobility doesn't actually own any helicopters, right?
You did know that, right?
What they do have are the bases for the operation of vertical takeoff
aircraft:
Blade Lounge West at W 30th Street and the Hudson River:
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/Blade+Lounge/@40.7548795,-74.0066309,17.87z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
Blade Aqua Lounge at E 23rd Street and the East River:
https://www.google.com/maps/search/Blade+Lounge/@40.7349007,-73.9882714,15.5z/data=!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
And Blade Lounge Wall Street at the tip of Manhattan and walking
distance from Wall Street itself.
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/Blade+Lounge/@40.703269,-74.0140616,16.04z/data=!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
Then there's Blade Lounge Newark at Newark Liberty International Airport:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/BLADE+Lounge+Newark/@40.7030767,-74.1813039,14.46z/data=!4m10!1m2!2m1!1sBlade+Lounge!3m6!1s0x89c2539d77607831:0xf6f6a7b946010d55!8m2!3d40.7070677!4d-74.1698832!15sCgxCbGFkZSBMb3VuZ2VaDiIMYmxhZGUgbG91bmdlkgEGbG91bmdlqgE1EAEyHxABIhv1yihDj0mmftlHwqcIgPJeUVMUhBD0Da8Gs2cyEBACIgxibGFkZSBsb3VuZ2XgAQA!16s%2Fg%2F11s863376b!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
And of course, they can fly you into JFK as well.
:-)
>
> Waste of time and money.
>
> It'll be VERY niche and as popular as the flying car was supposed to
> be by now.
>
> And guess what?
You're just guessing about all of this because you've never even looked
into it at all?
>
> Joby will NEVER have a "heavy commercial airliner", like your ilk
> said there'd be.
I've never seen anyone claim that there would be a "heavy commercial
airliner" anytime soon.