From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Luxury Real Estate Brokers Say Wealthy New Yorkers Are Already Looking To Flee After Zohran Mamdani's Primary Win
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 10:19:35 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-08-13 17:24, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:05:44 -0700, Alan says...
>
>>
>> On 2025-08-12 20:06, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:03:15 -0700, Alan says...
>>>
>>>>> Why? For what purpose? The idea is to get from point A to
>>>>> point B. So why does it make more sense?
>>>>
>>>> A taxi from downtown business centres to airports.
>>>
>>> Helicopters will reign over these wastes of time and money.
>>
>> Why?
>
> Why not?
Because helicopters are HUGELY expensive to operate.
The cliche about helicopters is that "they're a collection of parts
flying in loose formation".
Electric motors, OTOH, are extremely reliable.
Also, helicopters are slower than the Jobycraft is.
Bell Textron sells a helicopter, the Bell 505 (the most current version
of what used to be called the "Jet Ranger")...
<https://www.bellflight.com/products/bell-505>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206>
...that is the same as Jobycraft in terms of number of passengers (4 pax
+ 1 pilot) but has a bit higher payload as fuel is lighter than
batteries)...
...but in one area it is way behind the Joby: speed.
>
> The infrastructure is already in place for helicopters and Joby
> acquired Blade Air Mobility's US air taxi business which IS made up
> of helicopters.
It currently USES helicopters, but they don't own any.
And the infrastructure that is used for helicopters is perfectly suited
for electric VTOL aircraft.
>
> They'll HAVE to operate the helicopter side of the business to help
> PAY for whatever Joby builds and develops.
As I keep telling you, Blade Air Mobility doesn't own any helicopters,
so all they need to do to make their bases appropriate for Joby's
aircraft is to add charging stations.
>
>>> WHO is going to pay to retrofit all these buildings to have
>>> charging stations on them?
>>>
>>> Joby?
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Well, for one, they're down a cool $125 million after acquiring
> Blade Air Mobility's US air taxi business, which HAS helicopters, so
> they're going to HAVE to operate their helicopters to help pay for
> the building of their aircraft, alone.
That might be a point...
...if they hadn't received $1,144,000,000 (yes: more than a billion
dollars) from Toyota.
>
> Quite ingenuous, if you ask me.
>
> BUT!
>
> I think they'll probably have building owners, city coffers and the
> state government pitch in to help, either through low interest loans
> or subsidies, to help get the charging infrastructure in.
They won't have to ask a thing at the heliports that they now own.
And they don't need chargers on every helipad in order to use them just
as they are.
>
> This will be a long and drawn out process, so helicopters, even
> their own, WILL reign.
Again, Joby bought a company that owns facilities but doesn't own
helicopters.
>
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> Yeah... it's going to be a "cheaper ride" than car taxi and
>>> helicopters... NOT!
>>
>> And you know this... ...how?
>
> I looked up what both will cost.
>
> Didn't you?
I did. But you show that you did, since you're the one making the claims
about which will cost less.