From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Oops! - President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to immediately begin work and conduct...
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:04:41 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-08-12 10:13, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:12:59 -0700, Alan says...
>
>> On 2025-08-08 18:56, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:22:14 -0700, Alan says...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-07 09:41, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> President Trump has ordered the Department of Commerce to
>>>>> immediately...
>>>
>>>> ...break the law.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Q: Who controls the census and who can change the way it's taken?
>>>
>>> The PRESIDENT and Department of Commerce: THE PRESIDENT, through the
>>> Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and CAN ISSUE
>>> EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution and is controlled by
>>> several branches of the federal government, each with a different
>>> level of authority.
>>>
>>> Who Controls the Census
>>>
>>> The U.S. Census Bureau, a federal agency within the Department of
>>> Commerce, is the entity responsible for conducting the census. The
>>> Director of the Census Bureau is nominated by the President and
>>> confirmed by the Senate.
>>>
>>> Who Can Change the Way It's Taken
>>>
>>> The authority to change the census process is distributed among the
>>> legislative, executive, and judicial branches:
>>>
>>> Congress: According to the Constitution, Congress has the primary
>>> authority to direct the manner in which the census is taken.
>>> Congress passes the laws (Title 13 of the U.S. Code) that govern the
>>> census, including its funding, and can add or remove questions.
>>>
>>> The President and Department of Commerce: The President, through the
>>> Secretary of Commerce, oversees the Census Bureau and can issue
>>> executive orders. However, these actions are often challenged and
>>> are subject to the laws passed by Congress and rulings by the
>>> courts.
>>>
>>> The U.S. Supreme Court: The Supreme Court has the power to rule on
>>> the legality of census-related policies and questions. For example,
>>> the Court has blocked attempts to add certain questions to the
>>> census when it found the rationale for the addition to be
>>> insufficient.
>>>
>>> In summary, while the Census Bureau manages the day-to-day
>>> operations, Congress holds the ultimate legal authority to change
>>> the census process, with significant checks and balances FROM THE
>>> PRESIDENT and the Supreme Court.
>>>
>>> WHEN are you going to stop sucking at this, lakehouse rich boy?
>
>> No source?
>
> You think I wrote that? I'm flattered.
You think that my pointing out you not providing your source means that
I think you wrote it? You're that stupid.
>
> Is it wrong?
In the particulars you quote, no. But that's immaterial.
>
> Then shut the fuck up lakehouse rich feminist.
>
>> But even what you've quoted says:
>>
>> "The U.S. Census is mandated by the Constitution"
>
> And that does NOT mean they're the only ones who can "change" it.
First of all the US constitution is not a "they".
Second, the constitution mandates the counting of all PERSONS, full stop.
To not count some persons is to be in violation of the constitution.