From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: This is what victory looks like
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 06:57:18 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON (AP) Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
>>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
>>>>>>>> leader of Los Cuinis, a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
>>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
>>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
>>>>>>>> sheriffs deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
>>>>>>> the Epstein files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you address to the topic please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was political theatre.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll ask you a question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:
>>>>
>>>> "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.
>>>
>>> Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.
>>
>> Laughter!
>>
>> How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
>> cartel heads....
>>
>
>If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
>country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?
>
Laughter!
Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
>>>> stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
>>>> working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican
>>>> counterpart to do more to stem these flows."
>>>>
>>>> https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/
>>>
>>>
>>> Even the report recognizes this:
>>>
>>> 'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
>>> to the same [unspecified] period of last year.'
>>>
>>> versus
>>>
>>> 'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl,
>>> heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
>>> past 90 days.'
>>
>> Thank you for confirming what I said.
>
>You don't even see the contradiction, do you?
You don't even see that you're just making stuff up as you go, do you?