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On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
>>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
>>>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
>>>>>>>>> leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
>>>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
>>>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
>>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
>>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
>>>>>>>> the Epstein files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you address to the topic please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was political theatre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll ask you a question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.
>>>>
>>>> Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.
>>>
>>> Laughter!
>>>
>>> How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in.  And
>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
>>> cartel heads....
>>>
>>
>> If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?
>>
> 
> Laughter!
> 
> Assumes facts not in evidence.  You'd best get to work showing us how
> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures 
automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.

> 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
>>>>> stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
>>>>> working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican
>>>>> counterpart to do more to stem these flows."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even the report recognizes this:
>>>>
>>>> 'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
>>>> to “the same [unspecified] period of last year.”'
>>>>
>>>> versus
>>>>
>>>> 'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, “with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl,
>>>> heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
>>>> past 90 days.”'
>>>
>>> Thank you for confirming what I said.
>>
>> You don't even see the contradiction, do you?
> 
> You don't even see that you're just making stuff up as you go, do you?

If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more 
ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

You can't have it both ways.