From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: This is what victory looks like
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:54:28 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON (AP) Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
>>>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
>>>>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
>>>>>>>>>> leader of Los Cuinis, a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
>>>>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
>>>>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
>>>>>>>>>> sheriffs deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
>>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
>>>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
>>>>>>>>> the Epstein files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you address to the topic please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was political theatre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll ask you a question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.
>>>>
>>>> Laughter!
>>>>
>>>> How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
>>>> cartel heads....
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?
>>>
>>
>> Laughter!
>>
>> Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.
>
>No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures
>automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.
>
You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
Duh.
If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
the AP to correct them.
Laughter!