From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Where Was Midget's Feigned Anger When...
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 15:07:14 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 8/20/25 21:22, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 07:16:12 -0400, -hh says...
>
>>> So . . . you penalize a country that sells you too much stuff. Then
>>> you penalize them for not selling you enough stuff?
>>> <snip>
>>
>> Still waiting for the justification for Trump's Tariff on Penguins...
>
> This has already been explained to you, through this group. I can't help it if you missed it.
Oh, I already know the explanation: the "geniuses" who originally put
together the list used AI to generate countries, which used the domain
registry list instead of actual real countries. That's how they got an
uninhabited island.
Now MAGAs did try to spin a defense by postulating that countries could
dodge tariffs by passing goods through that remote destination. The
problem with this narrative attempt is that it doesn't work, because
tariffs are based on origin. Examples have already been noted on
Vietnam exports which have high China content levels.
> This has already been explain to you and the others, pretending to be
> economically stupid. If you don't tariff those you have a trade surplus
> with, or tariff them with a very low number, or not at all, countries
> that ARE tariffed higher, will simply sell their goods to THOSE countries
> and go around paying America the tariffs.
So is this word salad simply trying to own what I wrote above? Or is it
trying to claim (incorrectly BTW) that trade imbalances are supposed to
be equalized through tariffs?
> (I know it's the importers who actually pay the tariffs, but there's nothing
> to prevent them from countries, like China, from selling to the Penguin Islands
> and the importers buying from them)
Except that this strategy doesn't work: trying to cheat the system via
third party transshipment requires obtaining a fraudulent certificate of
origin, by unloading/reloading cargo in that country. One can't do that
with an uninhabited island which lacks a port.
> Remember the idiots who cried when Trump tariffed the Penguin Islands?
>
> "If you leave (any countries) off the list, countries that try to basically
> arbitrage America, will go through those (countries) to us." - Howard Lutnick
Lutnick is wrong & lying to you because the world is already savvy to
the ways to cheat; see above for a specific debunking.
The legal method to change country of origin requires a significant
enough value-added step to the goods called "substantial ransformation".
Its a (significant enough) value-added step to the product, such as by
smelting ore into that metal, making raw cotton into cloth, or to make
cloth into clothing.
-hh