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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Yet ANOTHER Idiot Sophist Liberal, Who Has To Not Only MOVE The Goalposts, But Move Them To A Place We Can't See
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 20:24:58 -0500
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:08:15 -0400,  -hh says...  


> >> I predict that when the price of coffee has exploded, Trump's tariffs
> >> will be seen in a different light by John Q Voter.
> > 
> > They already have, and I couldn't care less.
> > 
> > If you think about how much coffee you buy vs. how much you (ed.) use... 
> > it's still UNDER-priced. How many months do you think ANY beverage would 
> > last, costing $25, which a big can of Decaf and regular costs me?
> > 
> > I drink that coffee for 2-3 months at a time, on $25, and I drink at least 12 cups. (6oz.)
> 
> Except for how your coffee can has undergone shrinkflation.

That happened long ago, so tell us how that's Trump's fault?

EVERYTHING shrunk.

Look at the date:

Remembering the Three Pound Coffee Can: The Story of Shrinking Food Packages
Posted on June 30,2013

When I was young, my parents would buy three pounds of their favorite coffee packed in a sturdy, metal can. These cans became the 
storage containers of choice once they were empty. Mom stored party mix and holiday baked goods in them until needed. Slap some 
wrapping paper and a bow on one of these and you had the prototype for the modern popcorn tin. I'll bet there are tens of thousands 
of these cans still holding nails and screws in garages, workshops and barns across the nation. - 
<https://liveyourfuturenow.wordpress.com/2013/06/30/remembering-the-three-pound-coffee-can-the-story-of-shrinking-food-packages>

I'm not saying any of this happened ONLY during the O-B-A-M-A administration, but I DO find it funny, how and why this article was 
written in 2013, and not earlier.
 
> Maxwell House's 2lb can of coffee isn't 32oz but 27.5oz (-14%).
> And what used to be their 1lb can is now 10.3oz (-35%).
> Folgers downsized its 51oz to 43.5oz (-14%) to 40.3oz (-21%).

SIZE does not matter... you're paying by the OUNCE, or pound, if you prefer.

Please... do tell us all, how can size changes are Trump's fault... at all, when they changed LONNNNNNG before Trump even thought 
about running for President?

The coffee still lasts JUST as long, no matter WHAT size the container is, and again... NOT Trump's fault.

> > The ONLY ppl who'll bitch about the price of coffee, are the White idiot 
> > liberal cunts who don't brew their own, choosing to buy a $6-$9 Grande at 
> > Starbuck's, instead of the PENNIES in which you can brew your own.
> 
> Nah, paying for service always costs more.  In any event, my local 
> coffee roaster's prices have gone from $22/lb to $28/lb this year.

Apples to oranges. You're paying a premium using a local roaster. There are too many ladles in that soup, er, coffee.

Again... it's a pittance to pay, for how long coffee lasts, but your "local roaster" is reaming you a new asshole, gouging you like 
that.

I pay $6.88/lb a pound... NOW.

> And while its certainly less expensive to DIY, I don't know if I'd 
> really claim that it is just "pennies".  I find a pound is ~45 doses, so 
> the direct coffee consumable cost is $0.60

That's PENNIES, doofus.

I get 201 "doses" out of the cans I buy. That comes to 9 cents per tablespoon (had volume converted to weight), making my ALL day 
coffee costing me 36 cents.

> to $1.25, depending on if its 
> a single or a double (+$0.30 for milk if I'm making a flat white).

I add Coffee-mate at 9 cents an ounce, so maybe 72 cents for 12 cups of coffee a day. If I used milk, it'd be cheaper.

THAT is how it's done!

I'm not going broke with coffee costing what it does today, so fuck the tariffs. They're doing WAY more good than harm, to we not-
so-whiny Conservatives, anyway.

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All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike 
of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into 
three distinct phases or stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, 
as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting 
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The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a 
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reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."