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From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: This is what victory looks like
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 06:55:37 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:16:46 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2025-08-21 03:53, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Epstein files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you address to the topic please?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This was political theatre.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask you a question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
>>>>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
>>>>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
>>>>>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
>>>>>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in.  And
>>>>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
>>>>>>>> cartel heads....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
>>>>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidence.  You'd best get to work showing us how
>>>>>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures
>>>>> automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
>>>>
>>>> Duh.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
>>>> the AP to correct them.
>>>>
>>>> Laughter!
>>>>
>>>
>>> AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
>>> contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
>>> you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!)
>>>from Mexico News Daily.
>>>
>>> https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/
>> 
>> You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP.  Oddly, now
>> your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my
>> position?
>> 
>> Laughter!
>
>You snipped it because it presented two contradictory statements about 
>what represents success in seizures.
>

Laughter?

I was the one who provided both side citations.

How exactly are they contradictory?

>> 
>>>
>>> And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
>>> correlation without proof really isn't my problem.
>> 
>> If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them.  Be sure
>> to let us know what they say about your opinion.
>
>They drew no such conclusion.

Laughter!

You just said they did.

You're going to need to put some coherent thoughts together.

>
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> But let's put back the situation you snipped:
>>>
>>> If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...
>> 
>> The word you're looking for is "fewer".
>
>Play grammar games!
>

Hey, if you want to sound like an uneducated dolt, that's your call.


>> 
>>>
>>> ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
>>> ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?
>> 
>> It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
>> don't care.
>I can see why you want to run away to grammar games.

Laughter!

You're such a lightweight...